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[74.240.55.145]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d140sm21808103ywb.48.2016.04.13.14.41.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and the new plasma 5 thing To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <570C89C0.3060807@gmail.com> <1994596.hHob6hsXYm@andromeda> <570D3CB1.8030607@gmail.com> <2201664.SMmjebreo1@andromeda> <570DB8DA.9010609@gmail.com> <20160413084321.74d2a2b5@sepulchrave.remarqs> From: Dale Message-ID: <570EBCED.5020100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:41:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160413084321.74d2a2b5@sepulchrave.remarqs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4b91ad7d-7d3a-488a-aee7-65f577ec5451 X-Archives-Hash: 3671935a5711433fcb4be581b826f511 =BBQ=AB wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:11:22 -0500 > Dale wrote: > >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 01:21:37 PM Dale wrote: =20 >>>> J. Roeleveld wrote: =20 >>>> Once in there, I found lots of things to help get things to where >>>> I could work with them. I found out that I could add multiple >>>> desktops back and at that point, the desktop pager thingy appeared >>>> and worked. I guess when it is set to 1 desktop, it doesn't show >>>> up or something. =20 >>> Which seems logical behaviour to me. And the same happened here >>> after configuring it. =20 >> It is logical. I knew I had to enable multiple desktops but since the= >> settings thing wasn't working, I couldn't figure out how to enable >> it. When I did a google search, I saw where several folks said it was >> gone which caused me great concern. I got to much stuff going on >> right now to redo my whole setup. > The whining about it being "gone" in your search results is probably > because an important (to some people) feature is gone -- you can't have= > different backgrounds and widgets on different virtual desktops within > the same activity any more. Apparently that feature was buggy in=20 > KDE 4, though I never had problems with it, so they decided to ditch > it. They have a plan to re-implement it, but I have no idea how long > it might take. > > Earlier you said the new desktop didn't pick up any of the old KDE 4 > settings; I can't find that post, so I'm replying here. For me, it > picked up a few at least. Under KDE 4, I had changed my "location" > directories, e.g. the pictures and music directories, and Plasma 5 > kept my locations intact. I also had a couple of scripts in > autostart, and Plasma 5 is using them; I'm not sure if it copied them > to a new location or just left them where they were.=20 > > > I found a couple articles/blogs about it but once I got to the point that it was gone, I just figured it was gone all together. I read one of them pretty well since it was the one that was most on point and recently written and it sounded like multiple desktops was just gone completely. I just hope that person eventually runs up on that setting so they can get it back. Of course, that said, I could make the activity thing work but it would be one more thing to get used to. I was getting there with it. One day, I just may switch to it because the multiple desktops may be gone one day. It's been around a long time already.=20 On the fresh config, I noticed that too. At first, it seemed to start out fresh but while digging around and getting to some things that were not on the top of my list, I found some settings that were the same as before but doubtful they would be a default. So, it seems that some settings that they knew should work did get moved over. Still tho, given the huge change, I wonder if a fresh start may not be a better plan? I guess it depends on just how much was changed, which is likely a LOT.=20 After using a day or so now, it has some good points. It seems faster but can't quite put my finger on it. While some things are different they do work fairly well. It's much better than KDE3 to KDE4 type thing for sure. Only really bad thing, I still get the plasma crash pop up and I have to click for it to restart and close the pop up. It's annoying but at least it restarts and works just like before. I did do a emerge -e world and restart everything. It still crashes at times so it isn't some code mismatch. I'm going to dig around and see if I can find some unstable packages to run for a while and see if they have a fix= =2E=20 Overall tho, it works. Different but works. It is leaps and bounds better than hal. Don't get me started on hal. ;-) Dale :-) :-)=20