From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2689138359 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60397E092F; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sonic313-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic313-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5618E091F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:06:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1596830810; bh=dA4cknYy/l/G5V3V6HdeJDIZB1OFnuaWfqTx3z35JMY=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=COTkOEuhLYbxc89gG8Oan77NID3PFzBrlQf2bpEuLY6XyV/pUiXE47ieBst4Iy/rLe8ZLAcUKApp56WhoZMI/dnECPUeFjmNHLvfSWBNszANNKpgH43cbo/mfPbqvj2LI/wr9PeoISOpDat2v+3k8UG7pCF9XvravWllMJeBHIDIvPjEoQIqfoBsi25lNanWuxFTjU4q1zK2+7NL3+79Yxy3ttLs79DSJ2oftgXDqAMrQKc8fC7U/MzZxy+zCah/FdHu9PUos8eloeYcrKRnrIKQ7/92iJDJbC0ATPqV90lFvUQHnQQ2mPaFAL7A3HwXACZpE4I/p3vEOC0QwtaLGg== X-YMail-OSG: XziJXOgVM1loj3AR1UlFpNIHwNyIpPMRzYBNtR7OUUo9iLZM6poez_3_zWwHyjC SSGG0999iDxdtvqTfLFsn4O.Bj2A5jD..szdRtEhqGuPS9gB4_vB5vykgBZTpPlIFxddj75sUpr_ cq8sisjxEwz.PXuBbeM4BoIQoIsIYLSBze74XWLkaNIgHTRbLsAq1tB7gZhdBldz5_O0iREwar3m yHx8M2UqlTh9F.iZsHGsawL7QEaySUzVrC6H5fUZqsjFsUrJmE2a4CjfE23A6RwjcxF4qzYKyz8e PPPqttt13j02jcc2uWEQ1pRQYPVlUJ3gDbiqZKwO6xPA8sVybC6djMZ5cBvBTIzdKMa7ySsqkGp0 kjyaJZz101yCUKxmdNCe6d0xmirRHRHVRLkUUUhboiSkw0OcbLlzsnAm0i2zy5ln6p_zclM8mbAm iqdPQmJh1voXI_oCu0uOMTviQVXbYY9n5jr6P2I0MBIZIGP2rDy2_mYpnOxhFGFENQCpGH8OOD9D n2.MXc9O0Pg9eqfoRqha1j0dw9y0l1w8EvygRTrmy8.hzQUzL92YpdjqWNHYk2Z6ThLw5Pw8rdgg y2s_9vWYhXE9dedlpz3dPwPluhZ3bDiDNtxqA5ksp356ADLDgHiPHlVZQ9Lj3mBECNn_VB8Tv3rH S5cROujcaFvNKPKGa3uXXj6FvFDlEfXRDXZwiAQXKadVKBwx_QDkX5UPoawB0c.aTen41IhEoQe0 91nIC3qVL92mMxapABchnm4EAZVo.duChKelUQyTUzgeVPj0KLHbspDZYDg02i6Mk8Co0xBFcfMK 08.1OTdbJQXHJ35N6yvJTh4WnYTAoPo23SlaMsVlZUAM9TVfswoj7QBZ73POtR9dZipLAllSBAtE wNof3GvOyAX7Gk8oJagDGG_B56VkvRTUfpkXqblKAs4LF3RDQbzxPn4drKLBz8X8ZAwYOXtbe9Bb yFPrVWu1qDg8Hy7g_Va_PFTk4nzxkNk9QXn22apdTdWQkC69p1BeTVgTxvNj_lHeNEnOAX9Dv5Wo _zeUEnEttaR1c4ZM4.z8aTdcNZHFgjm5TxBPudMih0cUUqgt64CbQE7RMkCkGPe9EhyjYsSzllC2 P7QgHc4wg6VmOp_nHK8mWjkYqQADk5nG0toGuKHC8AZLF41QW5SpX6TJ0U6hixNT9Odvwqf4HpYx phWlFp7oB8gK4lVYBVEdBSK2F8b2MGiQhvE0xBZH80gA56l61bAL9mCMIRoFjaNlTK284A7jUddk byen4PSXmZolsa5PH.Ah_hP7nLf7tFs3FbOn39pvfwZZQarG5dbSmhpcaz4ZgMxCeraVS2.GU2Un 9PsSYe0MaM0mYVTbU86C3tXT_IufFmnIQw_mTgMvYwEgTV2rXcGINlM.MdK0vgPzxpXCAJg5Q3DU yYzAgFvqSRP4lJDSf7sYZVD0eOMwlfZnSL_svK.K6QfFsCY_9ricrdvauXaitBCtiWWUAJXO6AXB QKuonSSG2xQBTLbFgmeHKfPooKhZi.0g17s7C Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:06:50 +0000 Received: by smtp402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 58a8783991043badc4fcaaf23c059229; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Local mail server To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <60f2cb96-0a2b-7701-6a8c-1f6646c64697@verizon.net> <5F213F71.4020402@youngman.org.uk> <16224a84-ac9f-360a-1e2d-dc04d57de307@verizon.net> From: james Message-ID: <56929519-08db-a485-7927-4811b0c5847e@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 16:06:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16436 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) X-Archives-Salt: a50e9bfa-2265-4d94-a0b1-5d621379bf63 X-Archives-Hash: 41e602b43dd0b641f9687af348bd358e On 8/1/20 2:45 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 7/31/20 1:54 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> If I had a week with nothing to do, I'd love to try to get something >> like that working > > You don't need a week.� You don't even need a day.� You can probably > have a test tunnel working (on your computer) in less than an hour. Then > maybe a few more hours to get it to work on your existing equipment > (router) robustly and automatically on reboot. > > I encourage you to spend that initial hour.� I think� you will find that > will be time well spent. > > Hurricane Electric does have something else that will take more time, > maybe a few minutes a day over a month or so.� Their IPv6 training > program (I last looked a number of years ago) is a good introduction to > IPv6 in general.� Once you complete it, they'll even send you a shirt as > a nice perk. > > Note:� H.E. IPv6 training is independent and not required for their > IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnel service. > >> but, I assume you need a static IPv4 address. > > Nope.� Not really. > > You do need a predictable IPv4 address.� I'm using a H.E. tunnel on a > sticky IP (DHCP with long lease and renewals) perfectly fine. > > If your IP does change, you just need to update the tunnel or create a > new one to replace the old one.� This is all manged through their web > interface. > > > Here is an short read on the acceptance and usage of IPv6: https://ungleich.ch/u/blog/2020-the-year-of-ipv6/ So, yes I am working on using IPv6, with my RV/mobile-lab. hth, Jams