From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CF81384B4 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45C7821C059; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-f176.google.com (mail-yk0-f176.google.com [209.85.160.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A5F21C01C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ykdv3 with SMTP id v3so12414604ykd.0 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:41:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IkKLBlCTL0Uhhwe2k60GCChHODUa04oRAh9QCxEx1MM=; b=n7KtjVXfhLUAdN4h6A/hnkvg0pGBp5IFweTDBAt+xcex6JNGELLWaWhQESGrjFLmxp soq6rtjSKs4s0tcXiu9fvKrYSYCKlUgwfCQtYD4Re7PXAgkPmUzI7PhDgD2Ek3+W5UNN 4G7Yxyd+6AmBloD6xHK+U31Dmn0aRzb5r/YSvlZNlHDSJf1jxHzcbPT2MVy9BPfG0QJm QoeEzBjdRcQMHheTGFBV0emoxW5HTsIfBtyUEnf7mpbnb0/vCzcbCbZVhMyRMV2kzWHM wVV6epZ36vVetwb8L+YWLF1QvzJFRlUmkeacUpyBcUO9mC8JY6XC/J/GRki4KvG2OqBA K73A== X-Received: by 10.13.243.194 with SMTP id c185mr4727109ywf.170.1447184508488; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-116-226.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.116.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c5sm6001032ywf.12.2015.11.10.11.41.47 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:41:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Better CPU for compiling with gcc To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <56422D9C.6060001@gmail.com> <201511101817.35016.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <56423958.2030802@gmail.com> <56423DB7.4030605@gmail.com> <5642406E.2080808@gmail.com> <5642444D.9050205@gmail.com> From: Dale X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5642487A.3040701@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:41:46 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5642444D.9050205@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f172667e-efb0-44bf-b009-87198cb00ef7 X-Archives-Hash: 1abed0042e642a92d7f214ac139a45c3 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 10/11/2015 21:07, Stanislav Nikolov wrote: >> >> 8GB of RAM are waaay more than I use daily (several firefox tabs, nvim= =3D 2Gb max), I have a pretty fast SSD too. Even buying 8GB RAM and a br= and new SSD, I have > $450 left. Can I buy a AMD CPU that will get the jo= b done faster than 6700k and/or cheaper? >> > > That changes things. It wasn't obvious you already had RAM & SSD & stuf= f. > > I'd first make sure I have a decent PSU - none of that crap puny > el-cheapo $300 shit (search list archives for 1000s of posts about dodg= y > PSUs). Then split the difference between 8G RAM, a good CPU and an > excellent motherboard. You will use that extra RAM, and a motherboard > that ties all the bits together properly is much more cost-effective > than raw CPU grunt alone. > If he needs a guide to at least increase the odds of getting a good P/S, this may help. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=3DNDReviews&op=3DReview_Cat&rec= atnum=3D13 I been reading their reviews for a few years. They are pretty tough.=20 To be honest, if I picked out one that rated 8 on their scale, that would likely be a good P/S for me. You get into the 9's and it should be a really good one. Short of lightening, it would be the last thing I'd expect trouble from. They torture them pretty well. Should be the worst a P/S should ever see, example, air conditioner goes out and its really warm that day. Also, they take them apart so you can see what is inside them, good brand of caps for example. Still, they include the quality of the build and parts in their scoring. If a company skimps on that, they deduct points.=20 Honestly tho, the P/S is a critical part. If it fails, it can wreak all kinds of havoc. I've seen P/Ss go out and take a mobo, hard drive or something else out with it. After all, pretty much everythign plugs into power somehow.=20 Hope that helps.=20 Dale :-) :-)=20 P. S. Makes me want to upgrade my CPU to a 8 core now. I need a hard drive first tho. ;-)