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From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:26:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56421AB8.1080003@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1702148.kV3uT6Ls87@andromeda>

On 11/10/2015 11:13 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> What would take longer?
> brute-forcing your root-password or a 4096 byte ssh key?
> 

My password, by a lot. The password needs to be brute-forced over the
network, first of all.

And a 4096-bit public encryption key doesn't provide 4096 bits of
security -- you're thinking of symmetric encryption. Regardless, if
someone is brute-forcing passwords, it would take them "twice" as long
to brute-force both my root password and the password on my SSH key as
it would to do the root password alone. I can do better than 2x by
adding a character to my password. And that's pointless, because it
would already take forever. No-more-Earth forever.


> 
>> All of the good attacks (shoot me, bribe me, steal the hardware, etc.)
>> that I can think of work just fine against the two-factor auth. The only
>> other way to get the root password is to be there when I transfer it
>> from my brain to the terminal, in which case you have the SSH key, too.
> 
> The ssh-key is stored on your desktop/laptop. Secured with a passphrase.
> 

If my machine is compromised, the attacker can see both the SSH key
password when I type it, and the root password when I type that.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-10 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-10  1:38 [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10  3:26 ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-10  9:53   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-10 10:02     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-11-10 10:05     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 14:47   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 15:30     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 15:58       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 16:13         ` J. Roeleveld
2015-11-10 16:26           ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2015-11-10 17:17             ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 20:52             ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 21:00               ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 21:11                 ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 21:23                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 21:48                     ` Dale
2015-11-10 23:22                       ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 18:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 18:55           ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:00             ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-10 19:17               ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:20                 ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-10 19:23                 ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:25                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:32                     ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:38                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:31                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-11  4:51 ` Walter Dnes
2015-11-12 12:05 ` Rich Freeman

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