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[65.0.116.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ny9sm57933obc.23.2015.11.04.00.19.41 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Nov 2015 00:19:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] printing problems To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20151102000812.GA1123@ca.inter.net> <56391163.1030809@gmail.com> <56398BBA.30603@gmail.com> <6891148.3u2FQT2NXT@andromeda> From: Dale Message-ID: <5639BF9C.7040007@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 02:19:40 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6891148.3u2FQT2NXT@andromeda> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8e86f5b9-e1fb-47d1-9e4c-49d6f4b97122 X-Archives-Hash: 00d3780b658808cdd857874d51b47da7 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:38:18 PM Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 03/11/2015 18:05, Dale wrote: >>>> I don't know if this will help or not but since you seem to be grasping >>>> at straws, grab this one and hold on for dear life. For the longest >>>> time, every time hplip, cups and friends were updated, I had to delete >>>> and readd my printer. If I didn't, printing was not going to happen, >>>> period. I might also add, I'd restart cups just to be sure, after the >>>> delete and again after the readd. Once I did that, printing worked like >>>> a charm. If I didn't know better, I'd think the ink lasted longer too. >>>> ROFL Just kidding but . . . . If nothing else works, may want to try >>>> that. >>>> >>>> Oh, the last time I did the setup, I ignored cups completely. I went in >>>> as root and set up the printer using the hplip command. That was at >>>> least a couple years ago. Since then, whenever I get ready to print, >>>> and replace the dried out cartridges, it just works. I have a D4260, >>>> currently out of ink, again. >>>> >>>> I think the actual command is hp-setup. I use KDE and that opens a GUI >>>> to do the set up. Generally, it is just clicking next. It just seems >>>> to figure out the rest itself, unless you have more than one printer >>>> hooked up then you may have to select something. >>>> >>>> None of this may help but maybe one will. May be worth a shot. ;-) >>> That's my experience too. I print very little by for ages now everytime >>> a change was made to a printer or cups (even teeny minor ones), I'd >>> delete and re-add all printers plus restart cups. >>> >>> Why does cups behave like this? Buggered if I know. I have an >>> unexpressable opinion based on a certain fruity vendor who seems better >>> at suing Samsung than actually writing code.... >> For some reason, cups just doesn't like HP, at least in my case. I've >> had that problem for ages until a couple years or so ago. I always used >> cups to setup and mange the printer. After getting enough of it one >> day, I stopped cups. I then set up the printer with hplip. It took >> less than a minute to do to, just keep clicking next for me. After I >> did that, I don't think I have had to delete/readd the printer since. I >> know I have updated both cups and hplip too, likely several times. No >> telling what has been updated that they depend on. >> >> Maybe I got lucky or maybe just not using cups works. Odd thing is, >> when I rebooted later, cups started automatically and the printer still >> works and the printer shows up in cups. It's been working ever since. >> So, kick cups out of the way, set it up using only hplip stuff and see >> what happens. Heck, it just may work. :/ >> >> Now if I can just get Seamonkey and Firefox to stop defaulting to >> English (United Kingdom) instead of English (United States) I'll be even >> happier. o_O >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> >> P. S. I got my elcheapo ebay cartridges today. It still prints fine. >> >> :-D Oooo, pretty colors too. > Same here. > I use hp-setup to configure the printer once and then it "just works" without > further thinking. (Apart from having to switch it on) > > I stopped using inkjet/deskjet/... printers years ago after having another one > ruined by dried up ink. > Currently happily using a laserprinter with a network-cable :) > > -- > Joost > > I wish I could get me a laser printer. I'm dipping off into electronics again and will have to make PCBs and they say laser printers work better, although I have had a couple tell me ink jets work just as good now, maybe better. Still, toner doesn't seem to mess up like cartridges do. Just keep the stuff in a relatively dry spot and it's ready to go when ever you need to print. Glad to know that the way I set up my printer works for someone else too. Hmmmmm. Dale :-) :-)