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From: 微蔡 <microcai@fedoraproject.org>
To: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:03:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56372619.W26tlFO2Wt@gentoo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <112728911.Mbjymg5zaZ@energy>

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在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46,Volker Armin Hemmann 写道:
> Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡:
> > 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45,pk 写道:
> > 
> > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote:
> > > > :)  systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying to
> > > > 
> > > > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all.
> > > 
> > > Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for
> > 
> > the Linux
> > 
> > > kernel (given it's marriage with udev). when that comes, I'd rather go
> > > *BSD or even Windows for that matter. The current plan is going
> > 
> > mdev,
> > 
> > > following Walter Dnes fine example, when I can find the time
> > 
> > (perhaps
> > 
> > > during xmas).
> > 
> > byebye  haters .  Comunitiy doesn't need people like you.
> 
> wrong, it does need people like him. Following one 'messiah' like sheep (in
> this case Poettering and his pulseaudio/systemd mess) is not the RIGHT THING
> to do. There are always better solutions to a specific problem.
> 
> > a new
> > 
> > > > kernel from Linus every morning and file kernel bug reports when
> > > > appropriate. If I do find a kernel bug I may need to
> > 
> > recompile/reboot
> > 
> > > > many times as quickly as my machine can do it, so saving 15-20
> > 
> > seconds
> > 
> > > > per reboot cycle just feels less painful :)
> 
> if you can sacr 15-20 seconds there is something else broken. 20 seconds is
> the overall my box needs - with most time spent in bios. Without systemd.
> 
> > 	You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this.
> 
> I conclude you have no idea what you are talking about. Attacking people who
> have other NEEDS than you and so use a different SOLUTION is just wrong.

sorry about that.  different sulotion is good, but  *hate* is bad. because 
when you do some techical decisions ,  *hate* will lead to wrong decisions.

> But what to expect from someone with a 'fedora' email adress. Fedora aka
> Redhat aka acting obnoxoius and pushing sub par solutions or try to be as
> incompatible as possible to everybody else....


used to use fedora 4 years ago.  but don't want to re-subscrib to gentoo with 
new maill address.  :)  BTW. Don't overthink. it's not  @redhat.com , just 
fedora.

> 
> (see rpm mess, gcc 2.96 and other examples)
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-11 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 22:53 [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) walt
2012-11-09 23:13 ` pk
2012-11-10  0:14   ` Dale
2012-11-10  1:11     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  1:42       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-10  2:26         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:53         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:57           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:58             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  3:07               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:27                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  4:14                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 21:40                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 22:11                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:11                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:16                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:25                             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:42                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:53                                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-13  0:59                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13  3:03                                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:21                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  2:30       ` Dale
2012-11-10  2:46         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10  3:01           ` Dale
2012-11-10  6:54       ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  7:17         ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  7:32           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  0:24   ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  2:03   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10 19:56     ` pk
2012-11-11  7:33       ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 11:09         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 12:03           ` 微蔡 [this message]
2012-11-11 12:31             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-11 12:49             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 13:22               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-11 13:32                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:16                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 23:33                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:03                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  0:20                       ` Dale
2012-11-12  0:23                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:24                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  0:26                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  0:56                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  1:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:06                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:28                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:50                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:36                               ` Dale
2012-11-12  3:02                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:14                                   ` Dale
2012-11-12  5:16                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:48                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:12                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  2:17                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  8:20                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  8:37                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  9:36                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 18:00                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 18:26                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 18:30                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 21:26                                     ` Cr0k
2012-11-13 21:45                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-13 22:43                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-13 22:51                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 22:57                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 23:08                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-14  2:26                                               ` Hilco Wijbenga
2012-11-14 21:15                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-11-12 12:09                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:21                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                             ` Dale
2012-11-12  9:37                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  9:53                               ` Dale
2012-11-12 11:59                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 12:28                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12 12:51                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:08                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:33                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-19 19:30                                   ` Tanstaafl
2012-11-12 17:29                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-12 18:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:28                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 19:47                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-11 12:24           ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 13:38             ` pk
2012-11-11 13:59               ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 14:17                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:36                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-11-11 12:28         ` pk
2012-11-11 12:52           ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 13:45             ` pk
2012-11-12  1:53           ` Peter Humphrey
2012-11-12  3:14             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras

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