From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2D8139BC7 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1303EE0893; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D755DE088A for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wiclk2 with SMTP id lk2so81150966wic.0 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t0p4hcI91cxcT1EyWUweWP72Q33SAPP+OqAhmHVvQSo=; b=CQOO9D1dJRSsJi9DJxk3mNmwe3NXsIJ2/HhvMdqt1XacvmrhTaD0W10jtI9G6zcPGa 4fpf7TJSJE7Nbxy4xYVHK+wdWcdXYTaMwuzzXJfY2RJIEmWPyDkRTo39buBOZ8cWz/Bi 4xqZe/Vg1XSeBko18pF1ORT0DyzPQATg6bG8ugKd3Vmi73aQaVY73HkYrLMc2//WLpil uf6Fj80b/cbsDcb8Ks08bhVhWQyCQ2HM32B82cqfBUJB7G0EtOJPNUzS6XBsXJTdlpHE CVoBQ4IjeG0AKlC9Izf0AoAfZ+yB9LyWRdEMHKwM7G5hGoXhp+yWonde2+RLLcCxga0J 1Dwg== X-Received: by 10.194.120.131 with SMTP id lc3mr16788738wjb.99.1443389396767; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-149-222.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.149.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id fx2sm14830481wib.24.2015.09.27.14.29.55 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update problems To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <87eghucic9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <55FDBE16.1070404@gmail.com> <87pp15ecli.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <56068293.6090201@gmail.com> <87vbav3c4n.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> From: Alan McKinnon Message-ID: <56085FB7.1020703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 23:29:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87vbav3c4n.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 30073333-62d9-4203-831c-3bf9eeaf5c69 X-Archives-Hash: 80981f615f7fefc3d2c8749ead381219 On 27/09/2015 21:17, lee wrote: [big snip] >> Seems to me you are thinking like a human (because you are one) and not >> > seeing portage's limits. Portage has no idea what would solve the issue >> > so can't give any recommendations worth a damn. The best it can do is >> > print some hardcoded logic that looks like it might apply. > According to that, the human is even less able to figure out what might > solve the problem than portage is: The human doesn't know anything about > the huge number of dependencies involved, and even if they did, it would > take them really really long to go through all of them to figure out > anything at all. Now if they do it right, the human would come to the > same conclusion as portage, provided that portage does it right. > [big snip] Fellow, I'm done with you, really. You hold onto your issues with portage like they were some treasured memory of a long-since departed loved one, while all the time apparently ignoring the correct valid solutions offeered by kind folks on this list. Let it go. The devs know about portage output. I don't see you submitting patches though. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com