From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355011399D7 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 09:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43C18142B1; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 09:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07C9014186 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2015 09:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicmc4 with SMTP id mc4so58942760wic.0 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 02:16:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dbDlhwuqo7ME1PzrEWYeUl/e932esLDPHrFb+JoYZk0=; b=ObWYtv1sml+YUC5krlYIC1tqHPGTaXRidBoUdyNhXFjL26zLUPGl4ysFIn8+TaYN43 dq3CsY5JX3IPoXGw1eSl5yjIqozc1ewSWW2AYzgRkp3MbqBgkTdpk5Rxz/iwgomw/Bp9 JS9PVG9qrMUS7xOvIrnlMJx1eWW96pVSMPOp7dSOUbroYLYpXKrcK/lgIGM6LaM2LLZ+ lvuiT6oqaSWGk6xnUDPpaK716L2N2VyTh2ftb2McDSL8uxS9ODvN+zEg7ME5TkOcugxf 0RL5erVjcxV9bet1NpuEmUx2OQ/kxhj2RAGhOxc3gjCr8an6TJkrYF/hnBKEorF4hgiZ p3wg== X-Received: by 10.180.149.208 with SMTP id uc16mr2815841wib.7.1441185374616; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 02:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cosmo ([178.214.192.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm27121688wja.42.2015.09.02.02.16.13 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Sep 2015 02:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55e6be5d.6307c20a.54bab.03df@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 12:15:58 +0300 From: Gevisz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile In-Reply-To: References: <55E620F2.5010703@sys-concept.com> <55E665A1.1050008@wraeth.id.au> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ae25f4dd-c676-4cd9-8dba-d3fb2ff2a7f6 X-Archives-Hash: 5923148e07ff6f113928c686268f0ffb On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 01:55:00 -0400 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 12:57:37 PM wraeth wrote: > > On 02/09/15 12:23, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:22:44 PM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > >> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 05:05:09PM -0600, thelma@sys-concept.com > > >> wrote: > > >>> On 09/01/2015 04:55 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > >>>> Since you're too stupid to follow advice, you need to rebuild > > >>>> > > > *EVERYTHING* > > >>>> that linked against libjpeg (in this case x11-libs/wxGTK). > > >>> > > >>> This kind of language does not belong here. If you can not > > >>> refrain yourself making sarcastic remarks don't make any > > >>> comments. > > >> > > >> This language occasionally belongs on this list. > > >> > > >>> I would appreciate you stop reading my posts at all. I don't > > >>> belong to Gentoo community. > > >> > > >> OK. Maybe we all got off on the wrong foot here. When you ask for > > >> help, can you please provide: > > >> > > >> * the *exact* command you ran * the output of `emerge --info' * > > >> the whole error, not just the part you think is relevant > > >> > > >> It is incredibly difficult for us to help when we only get a > > >> small piece of what's going on with your system. > > >> > > >> Alec > > >> > > > > > > He was told what the problem was on his first post about > > > libjpeg-turbo, he didn't just ignore it but posted the wrong > > > solution with a big SOLVED on the subject that only serves to > > > mislead future users of this list. On his last post about this same > > > error (different package) I politely told him to go back and follow > > > the advise on that post, again he ignored it and posted a bogus > > > solution (it worked because he rebuilt tiff, perl had nothing to do > > > with it). revdep-rebuild may (or may not) fix it now, but the right > > > solution is to remove or fix the obsolete package to depend on > > > virtual/jpeg, update world properly, and then revdep-rebuild to > > > undo this mess. > > > > So someone posted an issue(s), then marked it solved when they got a > > workaround which may not resolve the actual issue but got them past > > their initial problem(s). > > > > Your argument to that is that their "false solution" will mislead > > future readers of the list. Doesn't the same apply to insulting > > participants of the list? Not to mention this comes shortly after a > > discussion about attracting new blood into the Gentoo community. > > > > You don't have to participate in this thread. You could also simply > > say "I said in your previous posts that you need to do /this/." > > > > We should never resort to insults and name calling if we want this to > > be a productive list. If there's a problem with someone, either stop > > replying to their messages, take it up with them directly (and > > diplomatically), or bring it up with the list owner [1,2]. > > I have no excuse for name calling, that was wrong and I should've handled it > better. Hopefully s/he'll get over it. > > It's arguable if that makes the list less productive, but certainly posting a > new thread every few hours about the same issue will make it less productive. Agree with the last phrase: "posting a new thread every few hours about the same issue" should be avoided." > > 1: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt > > 2: gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org > > > > -- > > wraeth > > GnuPG Key: B2D9F759 > > >