From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25321384C0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A3AD142A1; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3121421E for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicfv10 with SMTP id fv10so43994185wic.1 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FUD3fLjh/dK2eNLCRMDXoE/qVaGdkavxOGgkDN2wqf0=; b=SB1PNy/vDmBG4T1cmMqmcf8vifDH37EfSZXxAASRC4eKXwpXmIfyieOygzOWpyH92C JaxgwaXZva57Cd9X0osUgB7Zhq6gmLSan/dzP6SfH/33cVeoJ/9UijvjRP6zpnnvmBeM yp0AE/Ei9767r3xe6lqhlrK9Qxm6bjZyFVzIGGT98GW67MCKFa40zneBS9xJTaBjOy0Q eF5K0TcTUhfH/SrUoqIRAa8nlaBCnzQATBDlcrS1QJq89/I0w6ybZpuCyrXsbmC7v0jU HVjaTY8NRXKvd6QppreKXEU5PPcjCb+CN1n9uApLfZNCPKfBQxjs6jC8WURSJMfuLueO FWPA== X-Received: by 10.194.190.79 with SMTP id go15mr21503725wjc.80.1440954325618; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] ([105.210.27.19]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s1sm13977580wix.13.2015.08.30.10.05.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> <8354413.MkAUdyVTWU@wstn> <55E328E8.4070004@gmail.com> <55E336B8.7040706@gmail.com> From: Alan McKinnon Message-ID: <55E337C9.7030001@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:05:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55E336B8.7040706@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a8532254-5db1-435b-9af8-770033b56fec X-Archives-Hash: 461adb1405b1cc93b4e9bf20bde6a53c On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote: >>>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? >>>> How long between power off/on's ? >>>> >>>> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, >>>> then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. >>>> However recently, I've run into delays getting my router >>>> (only 1 device attached) to shake hands successfully with my ISP's server, >>>> which have been requiring several power off/on's before it works. >>>> As a result, I've started rebooting only after my weekly system update >>>> -- it means I get to use the new versions of everything -- >>>> & not powering off at all ; the monitor + Xscreensaver are off >>>> whenever I'm away from the machine for >= 1 hr (approx). >>>> >>>> Are there any pro's/con's I sb aware of ? >>> No-one has yet mentioned taking backups. I'm still using a brute-force >>> approach, in which I shut down each of my two machines once a week to make a >>> backup to external disk. Otherwise they're on 24 hours a day running BOINC >>> projects. On the desktop PC kmail makes a daily archive of messages, and once >>> a day a cron job copies my user directory to /home/.bu/ . >>> >>> I know it burns energy but I'm prepared to make my small contribution to what >>> I think is a good cause. >>> >> >> A desktop or laptop will typically draw far less power than a single 60W >> incandescent bulb. I bet you have quite a lot of those. Even if not, the >> CFLs you'll have to give you light at night still draw much much more >> than a computer. >> >> If saving energy is your personal driver, then you should be looking at >> water heaters, central heaters, aircon and stove as the main culprits. >> Everything else, whilst measurable, is a small drop in the bucket and >> probably not worth worrying about. >> >> Assuming of course that your computer is a desktop/laptop, and not a 42U >> cabinet jam packed full of Dell 2950s >> > > > Don't forget the clothes dryer to, if you have one. Mine is electric > and it pulls as much as my water heater does. I just don't use it as > much is all. I forgot about that :-) Add in almost all laundry appliances and kitchen power tools too... -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com