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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:54:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E32748.6040603@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E32038.1080204@gmail.com>

On 30/08/2015 17:24, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 08/30/2015 06:24 AM, Michel Catudal wrote:
>>
>> As for shutdowns there are several arguments for and against. What often
>> kills electronic is the shock between hot and cold so there is an
>> argument about keeping the system on.
>> Whether it is always safe to keep the computer on all the time remains
>> to be proven. 
> 
> Recently I've had to help someone migrate off of a failed computer. This
> computer was old (I had to find an IDE adapter to recover some files)
> from late 90s/early 00s.
> 
> Some time ago I told him to have it running all the time, mostly because
> of age. So he kept it running nonstop and literally a week or two ago
> shut it down as he was getting new flooring installed. He called me
> after hooking it back up again as it wouldn't start. I went over to
> check and the motherboard finally failed. He hadn't powered it off in
> 4-5 years.
> 
> For myself I use a smart power bar and suspend my PC when not in use.
> This caused me all sorts of grief with systemd hanging on shutdown after
> a suspend, ultimately causing my RAID array to be rebuilt on every
> reboot/shutdown and so I've finally abandoned it and am running openrc
> again.
> 
> The only thing about using suspend is that if the PC is in a sleep state
> it won't wake up and shut down when the power goes out. This just
> happened to me yesterday (big wind storm here.)



One of the reasons sysadmins have old servers out there that still have
huge uptimes, is that we dare not switch them off. We don't know if the
drives will spin up again from cold!

Technically, we should do a power down test every 6 months or so, but
that turns out not to be a yes/no test in real life; it's a yes/destroy
test and no-one wants to make a decision either way. So we all sit in
limbo and wait for some exterior event to decide for us (like black-outs)

Sad, init?


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-30 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-30  4:04 [gentoo-user] system uptime Philip Webb
2015-08-30  4:22 ` Dale
2015-08-30  5:08   ` covici
2015-08-30  7:54     ` Dale
2015-08-30 12:20       ` Mick
2015-08-30 12:33         ` Dale
2015-08-30  6:52 ` Walter Dnes
2015-08-30  9:41 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 11:08   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 13:24 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-30 15:24   ` Daniel Frey
2015-08-30 15:54     ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2015-08-30 16:03       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 13:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-30 13:58   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 14:21   ` Mick
2015-08-30 15:22   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2015-08-30 13:54 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-30 15:20 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2015-08-30 15:56 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-30 16:01   ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 17:00     ` Dale
2015-08-30 17:05       ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 17:26         ` Mick
2015-08-30 17:50           ` Dale
2015-08-31  8:50           ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-31  9:42             ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-31 13:41               ` [OT] Was " Peter Humphrey
2015-08-31 14:39                 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-31 15:04                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Was " James
2015-09-01 14:19                   ` [OT] Was re: [gentoo-user] " Peter Humphrey
2015-08-31 21:58                 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-30 16:06   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-30 17:11   ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-30 17:56     ` Terry Z.
2015-09-03 15:32 ` Philip Webb
2015-09-03 17:25   ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-03 18:12     ` Philip Webb

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