From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC72E1384C0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2160B142FE; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8CEE1424C for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pabpg12 with SMTP id pg12so5480385pab.3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cac0abzKwCeEepq1UoVQ6/AIV95l/6mf6c8MMVhPiNo=; b=nMqBc3a5zq0G0/jwiTMF2JSIt8b5Xt8twehcUH2NYhGv7Ua8E/no2UJYVq8lmo2sFM GXmrs/fiVBdb/VY/GrwQSWkJ3ca2siWOTL3AZEMYBExuG6CmsPju4T1kq9aeL/DJj3sL A3qcHBSt58L75sPdyd0LL7UecaXCIbl/aebHZjZCy8jCPBQIaKxP8yjrdK79ucpHIMce y3sMOHd4mUVjKI32W9sNuITMpJ1tjRkwBptsk2mIydMX/ljLzfTYWs12u38fc6i6F7Bo 7MsZxGU5k87jspWHuv7zPVqQc/Lie/Qflu5UK5zB4um0qJ4nxSEwNbOIa7+0cATw/Oga Nuig== X-Received: by 10.68.218.136 with SMTP id pg8mr30540220pbc.169.1440948283124; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.247.60] (76-10-185-30.dsl.teksavvy.com. [76.10.185.30]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id mw3sm11577955pdb.76.2015.08.30.08.24.42 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55E32038.1080204@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:24:40 -0700 From: Daniel Frey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime References: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> <55E303F0.5010709@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <55E303F0.5010709@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 07532e5f-ca6d-4124-87d3-848f1b4a7e94 X-Archives-Hash: 583bf1044ebb280353e40a1cc5bac69e On 08/30/2015 06:24 AM, Michel Catudal wrote: > > As for shutdowns there are several arguments for and against. What often > kills electronic is the shock between hot and cold so there is an > argument about keeping the system on. > Whether it is always safe to keep the computer on all the time remains > to be proven. Recently I've had to help someone migrate off of a failed computer. This computer was old (I had to find an IDE adapter to recover some files) from late 90s/early 00s. Some time ago I told him to have it running all the time, mostly because of age. So he kept it running nonstop and literally a week or two ago shut it down as he was getting new flooring installed. He called me after hooking it back up again as it wouldn't start. I went over to check and the motherboard finally failed. He hadn't powered it off in 4-5 years. For myself I use a smart power bar and suspend my PC when not in use. This caused me all sorts of grief with systemd hanging on shutdown after a suspend, ultimately causing my RAID array to be rebuilt on every reboot/shutdown and so I've finally abandoned it and am running openrc again. The only thing about using suspend is that if the PC is in a sleep state it won't wake up and shut down when the power goes out. This just happened to me yesterday (big wind storm here.) Dan