From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948761384C0 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E36F81425F; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70C50E07F1 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.109]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id AgVU1r0052N9P4d01gW1K0; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:30:01 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([68.60.91.51]) by resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id AgW11r00D16Uy7001gW1xH; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:30:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <50376531.11846538.1440694215112.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <55DF9EEB.2080403@comcast.net> From: Michel Catudal Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?Pas_Organis=c3=a9_par_Ti-Mou?= Message-ID: <55E1DDFA.9040008@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:29:46 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux Eniac; Joual; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1440865801; bh=9xceDV+Xj5TcswQL+h90kpz4KwlBaa5Pd+oVk/EPTTw=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=GtM6mksyRukCumvCZ5XqEpKbM57IVGQ6478M0xsQVShWO75r+hdFTskll8ONEfd/D Cu0tksz14PHblftw5c9jrMP7Ju+oHRxB3cG07c9EoFD7+osYeRkEprNR2WIQApSula E5Mtjnh4ggbcjfDA5mcPOt7LUhX7/9koPovCLk4exEo7O5EwFrY8BmpjUpnQzWr19c aQkGI6GnGOPFuLFh+lwDXqymC6cDPTuvUulRyZanQfC3LETppJ6FWOvmNB2jprQwSR TaL5tQmrcSy0uHULjN5+D79G4HenhQpVtLEnDcYHAeo98lexYvE92RABAwFnBxnPqc 0NAr2GeIJcpcQ== X-Archives-Salt: b48f1f89-cd5b-4fcd-9341-1c3323f1adea X-Archives-Hash: 2b171d62482b054032992bb0cc517b40 Le 2015-08-28 07:55, Tom H a écrit : > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: >> Le 2015-08-27 15:18, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : >>> Who are you to tell them what they should work on? They're acting like >>> FOSS developers, many of whom work for free or underpaid so they work on >>> whatever the fuck they want. The problem with FOSS is that we have too many >>> idiots that like to rant about what they don't like instead of doing >>> something about it. If all those energies went to improving the software >>> FOSS would be so much better. >> No one is asking them to do that. As mentioned before it works with some >> override. A solution to the problem would be to remove the arrogance toward >> people who want grub on a partition and remove the part in the installer >> that refuses to install it unless you give it an override. If I say write >> the bootloader on the partition, that should work as requested, they can >> still write a comment that they do not like us doing it but should not keep >> us from doing it. If it doesn't work we will see it soon enough. > So you want the Gentoo grub2 maintainer to patch grub2 to remove the > warning about partitions and the need for "--force" so that you can > use "grub2-install /dev/sda1"? > > Isn't simpleer and more efficient for you to use "--force"?! > > By having this messages it makes the maintainers of some distributions assume that it is impossible and will do everything in their power to not allow you to install on the partition. That is the old Microsoft way of protecting the user against himself. That is fine for morons but people who know what they are doing should be allowed to wacked their system when they do stupid thing. You probably know a few Linux distributions targeted to people who shouldn't be allowed anywere near a computer. So if we decide to install one of those to help one of those users we have some problem. Once I had that it got remove and I had to answer to the user, sorry I cannot allow this crappy linux distribution on my computer. Michel -- For Linux Software visit http://home.comcast.net/~mcatudal http://sourceforge.net/projects/suzielinux/