From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BBE1384C0 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C7A214278; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AF2C1425D for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.108]) by resqmta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id AgHu1r0032LrikM01gHua0; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:17:54 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([68.60.91.51]) by resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id AgHu1r00116Uy7001gHudj; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:17:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <55DE3D41.1050301@comcast.net> From: Michel Catudal Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?Pas_Organis=c3=a9_par_Ti-Mou?= Message-ID: <55E1DB22.50608@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:17:38 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux Eniac; Joual; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1440865074; bh=0gUQyGIqS3Qpol57g5XudlYyG45Qh2Tje/yhDYxq1V4=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ieuhZn/ZJnW5/HcOnjb+WWlbI4LdW2eC1lcaOQ9lyXqts5RGrtdlvt043pvtSTW1B Fn0VDSBNVPF04bcDGvpsm465g/fqrXWddxg0Adivq2E8D04vNcttsdJUOuAVtP7n7t FTQKe/sPSfRa92nKoTibgfJiwXOQg1IN7AJEoibIFsMqe7huJcx2hNPDl4R8E4AxME 8/KIBIG2MndGqRve5enzaw8Jp2iWvh7FJ/DiYz9fFlH/zjAQwuehe47FWkFhw1ATsi btqMo85DzNDvlUX9iW4Pa6yhVK1F6B2NpRW+8eOpiQWkVx6l9pQ0Lvq2LCEqqMCDdB r1txIpD2sYIUw== X-Archives-Salt: 8b857da6-cbe4-4e6e-a70b-ef291d6a5cb7 X-Archives-Hash: 35cfc188f97b47610f5053accd21f91a Le 2015-08-28 07:24, Tom H a écrit : > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: >>>> I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition >>>> and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It insists on installing on the MBR which is >>>> unacceptable. >>> It's not a bug, and it won't be "fixed". Installing on a partition is >>> simply not supported. >> So, grub2 refuses to share power and cooperate with another bootloader. >> Bill Gates would be pround. >> >> For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a >> pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. > You can boot multiple installations via grub2 with os-prober. > You have to be able to boot the os that grub is installed on to be able to fix booting issues. If the OS that has control of grub2 is wacked you are screwed. At least with a bootloader that independant of any operating system and with a nice graphic interface it is a piece of cake to fix things since you do not ever lose your bootloader unless you let grub write on the MBR or on your bootloader partition. I know that you can boot on grub if it is not wiped but the interface is not friendly at all and if you do not remember the syntax you are screwed. Until grub becomes a nice real bootloader with a friendly user interface it cannot be allowed to be the sole controller of booting. Michel -- For Linux Software visit http://home.comcast.net/~mcatudal http://sourceforge.net/projects/suzielinux/