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From: Alan Grimes <ALONZOTG@verizon.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:00:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D73D00.3080308@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mr7d0f$bk8$1@ger.gmane.org>

Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-08-21, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Earlier I saw segfaults in gcc, and another poster pointed it out.
>>
>> When gcc segfaults, it is always suspicious mostly because the compiler
>> is an app where we know the devs take extraordinary measures to prevent it.
>>
>> The most common cause is faulty hardware (most often memory) as gcc
>> tends to use all of it in ways no other app does. The usual procedure
>> at this point is to run memtest for an extended period - say 48
>> hours, or even 72 for an older slow machine.
> That is definitely good advice.  I've run into this situation several
> times.  A machine had bad RAM that didn't seem to cause any problems
> under "normal" operation.  But, when trying to compile something large
> like gcc, I would see non-repeatable segfaults (it wouldn't always
> segfault at the exact same point).  In those cases, I could often run
> memtest for several passes and not see an error. But, _eventually_
> ramtest would catch it.  Run memtest for a few days.  Really.

Yeah, I know there's a single bit error out at the end of RAM that will
appear on the third or fourth pass...

I have already RMA'd half of the ram in this machine because it was
giving a whole fist-full of errors across two sticks... I run the rusty
old bus on the CPU ( SIX CORES!!!!)  a bit harder than it was intended
in order to keep up with the new junk. My previous machine had ECC.   =(

I was advised to just jack the voltage a little bit and live with it. I
guess I'd better run more tests and see what the situation is....

It just doesn't seem reasonable to demand that every bit in a 32
gigabyte memory bank be absolutely perfect....

-- 
IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

Powers are not rights.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-21 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20 20:26 [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL Alan Grimes
2015-08-20 20:37 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-20 21:09   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-20 21:18   ` [gentoo-user] " Emanuele Rusconi
2015-08-20 21:11 ` Terry Z.
2015-08-20 21:29 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 22:31   ` Alan Grimes
2015-08-21  1:20     ` wraeth
2015-08-21  1:49       ` Alan Grimes
2015-08-21  2:41         ` wraeth
2015-08-21  6:09           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-21 14:35             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-21 15:00               ` Alan Grimes [this message]
2015-08-21 16:28                 ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-21 17:07                 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-08-22  5:52                   ` Alan Grimes
2015-08-22  7:04                     ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-22  8:18                       ` Dale
2015-08-22 11:25                         ` Mick
2015-08-22 11:47                           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-22 13:43                             ` Mick
2015-08-22 16:40                         ` Alan Grimes
2015-08-22 17:02                           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-22 23:28                           ` Dale
2015-08-25 20:43                             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-08-25 22:39                               ` Dale
2015-08-21 23:39                 ` Dale
2015-08-22  0:35                 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-21  1:45     ` [gentoo-user] " Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-21 14:07     ` [gentoo-user] " James

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