From: Michel Catudal <mcatudal@comcast.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:57:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D517D9.8050005@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D50DCB.7020200@gentoo.org>
Le 2015-08-19 19:14, Michael Orlitzky a écrit :
> On 08/19/2015 06:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> Copyright law makes everything illegal. Downloading the source and
>>> reading it is illegal. Why wouldn't it be illegal? The copyright holders
>>> have made it clear that you have no license to do so.
>>>
>> If I distribute a binary kernel module, I'm not copying anything that
>> I didn't write. I'm the copyright holder of the binary kernel module.
>>
> Anything you can do without the kernel source code is legal, sure. But
> we're talking about...
>
> 1. Downloading the kernel source (making a copy of) it.
> 2. Patching it.
> 3. Linking it with closed source code.
> 4. Distributing the result.
>
> (If that's not what you have in mind, maybe we are at cross purposes).
>
> Step #1 is illegal unless you have a licence. The burden of proof is on
> you to show that you were allowed to do it.
>
>
>> That is why I want you to actually look up the letter of the law,
>> because if the specific action being done isn't in the letter of the
>> law, then those claiming copyright have an uphill battle ahead of
>> them.
>>
> I'm not going to go look up whatever statute says "you can't make a copy
> of copyrighted stuff" =P
>
>
>
All the Linux manufacturer has to do is provide a kernel with the bullshit parts removed. It can provide a script to install the proprietary driver.
A judge would throw out of court any ridiculous complaint about someone installing a good video driver on their computer because they do not like the trash that came with it.
Manufacturers of video cards have plenty of customers with Winblows and MAC. They cannot afford to release information that their competition can use to steal their market share.
Business is a very competitive market, industrial espionage is not the only thing companies have to worry about it.
Our choice here is either to have a decent display or crap, my choice is the first. For the dev of the kernel to attempt to keep us from having decent display is uncalled for.
The day I will use nouveau instead of the good nvidia driver as my father use to say, in the week of three thursdays.
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-16 16:45 [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Keyboard stops working several times/day walt
2015-08-16 16:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-16 19:42 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2015-08-16 19:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-16 21:07 ` walt
2015-08-16 21:34 ` Dale
2015-08-16 22:39 ` walt
2015-08-17 5:53 ` Dale
2015-08-18 1:44 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules walt
2015-08-18 20:49 ` Dale
2015-08-18 23:55 ` walt
2015-08-19 0:39 ` Dale
2015-08-19 3:12 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-19 11:00 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 19:06 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-19 21:28 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 22:09 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-19 22:21 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 23:14 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-19 23:40 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 0:04 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-20 0:25 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-20 0:38 ` Dale
2015-08-20 0:37 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 0:48 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-20 1:11 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-20 1:20 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 2:37 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 2:53 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 7:24 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 11:48 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:13 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 8:40 ` Marc Joliet
2015-08-20 11:51 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:09 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:41 ` Dale
2015-08-20 2:25 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 2:43 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 3:02 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-19 23:57 ` Michel Catudal [this message]
2015-08-20 1:05 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:12 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-20 1:24 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:35 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-20 2:39 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 3:22 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-20 12:00 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 23:30 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-20 1:06 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 1:54 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 3:20 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-08-19 11:12 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 7:57 ` Marc Joliet
2015-08-19 8:06 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-08-19 9:19 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-19 11:06 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 12:31 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-19 13:17 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-19 22:31 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-20 1:01 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-20 1:29 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-16 23:27 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Keyboard stops working several times/day Michel Catudal
2015-08-17 1:43 ` walt
2015-08-17 2:37 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-17 7:17 ` netfab
2015-08-17 18:28 ` mcatudal
2015-08-18 1:13 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-18 8:04 ` netfab
2015-08-17 16:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Heiko Baums
2015-08-18 2:04 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2015-08-18 18:38 ` Heiko Baums
2015-08-18 23:40 ` walt
2015-08-17 21:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Marc Joliet
2015-08-18 1:56 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
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