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[98.95.109.243]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i130sm23829315ywb.21.2015.07.21.10.35.28 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55AE82DF.6070603@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:35:27 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function References: <20150720161844.1db1d485@a6> <CAGfcS_=bXbH0erP_JTwZaN=pW_A_KbvtGZgVLO5Bganx4oO7Hg@mail.gmail.com> <55ADA326.2090707@gmail.com> <201507210853.59492.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201507210853.59492.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050302030007080309080003" X-Archives-Salt: 5a465ee1-3dbc-4b3c-bef0-09d56a93a21a X-Archives-Hash: 26995d0ad9673b6e1b4926d01b92c00b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050302030007080309080003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: >> >> >> I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something= >> that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites= >> like banking and such each have their own random generated one. I als= o >> try to generate the longest and most complex password the site will >> allow. Some sites don't allow the characters above the number keys. >> >> Another thing, I was at my brothers once and needed to login to a site= =2E >> I installed lastpass, typed in my email and master password and I coul= d >> go anywhere I wanted just as if I was sitting at my own puter. If it= >> wasn't for lastpass, I would have had to come home and do what needed >> doing. >> >> So far, this is the best solution I have found and I only use the free= >> part. ;-) >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > > A better, as in more secure, solution should involve local encryption and IMHO > local air-gapped storage. A USB key will do nicely and you can have a second > USB key stored in your brother's premises, for disaster recovery scenarios.=20 > This is because cloud storage: > > a) creates a honey pot which attracts attacks[1] and > b) most of cloud storage is in the US. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#Security_issues > =46rom what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally the= n uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. Of all the things I read about when looking for a password manager, Lastpass was the only thing that came close to what I wanted. After using it a while, it is all I need. https://lastpass.com/how-it-works=20 I've had USB sticks break before. They are also easy to lose. I'd prefer not to store something that important on a USB stick. Dale :-) :-) --------------050302030007080309080003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Mick wrote:<br> <span style="white-space: pre;">> On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote:<br> >><br> >><br> >> I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something<br> >> that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites<br> >> like banking and such each have their own random generated one. I also<br> >> try to generate the longest and most complex password the site will<br> >> allow. Some sites don't allow the characters above the number keys.<br> >><br> >> Another thing, I was at my brothers once and needed to login to a site.<br> >> I installed lastpass, typed in my email and master password and I could<br> >> go anywhere I wanted just as if I was sitting at my own puter. If it<br> >> wasn't for lastpass, I would have had to come home and do what needed<br> >> doing.<br> >><br> >> So far, this is the best solution I have found and I only use the free<br> >> part. ;-)<br> >><br> >> Dale<br> >><br> >> :-) :-)<br> ><br> > A better, as in more secure, solution should involve local encryption and IMHO <br> > local air-gapped storage. A USB key will do nicely and you can have a second <br> > USB key stored in your brother's premises, for disaster recovery scenarios. <br> > This is because cloud storage:<br> ><br> > a) creates a honey pot which attracts attacks[1] and <br> > b) most of cloud storage is in the US.<br> ><br> > [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#Security_issues">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#Security_issues</a><br> ></span><br> <br> <br> From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. Of all the things I read about when looking for a password manager, Lastpass was the only thing that came close to what I wanted. After using it a while, it is all I need. <br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lastpass.com/how-it-works">https://lastpass.com/how-it-works</a> <br> <br> I've had USB sticks break before. They are also easy to lose. I'd prefer not to store something that important on a USB stick. <br> <br> Dale<br> <br> :-) :-) <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------050302030007080309080003--