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From: "Michael Crute" <mcrute@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:23:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558b73fb0606061323i724a17bbg931b429e9fb3a9c5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17CD9CE4C0FA574A8B29EF02D49B385D0F5608@srvexch-01.mcaschool.local>

On 6/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> > On 6/6/06, Michael Crute <mcrute@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I agree with Daniel, if you learn on a GUI its far too easy to make
> > > bad websites. Start with VI and a good book, and do yourself a favor
> > > learning CSS and XHTML since that is where web design is headed.
> >
> > It is probably a good idea to start with a good text editor and a
> > book, but trying to learn vi and web design at the same time might be
> > a bit overwhelming!
> >
> > -- Evan
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> [Timothy A. Holmes]
>
> In this sense I am afraid I cannot agree with you.  While I agree that
> it is ABSOLUTLY essential to learn XHTML and CSS code, trying to start
> from a blank vi or notepad screen is an exercise in frustration -- been
> there done that -- as I was beginning to learn web programming, working
> under incredible pressure from the then resident administration, I was
> trying to hand code everything in Visual InterDev.  The crowning moment
> was 5 hours spent to produce 2 lines of NON-WORKING code. I far more
> recommend a authoring package like Dreamweaver that allows you to flip
> views or even split the views, so you can see what is happening to your
> code each time you make an insertion.  I tend to do the "pretty" stuff
> in the gui and use the code editor (which has autocomplete and some
> other nice stuff) to do the code.  In some cases (like constructing
> querys etc) DW makes it very easy to accomplish and provides CONSISTANT
> and WORKING code, which is something that beginning web builders have a
> hard time with. Even if you are set on doing hand code, do it with a
> coding editor such as Dreamweaver - the color coding, line numbers etc
> make it much easier to debug
>
> I would at ALL COSTS -- stay away from Front Page -- the code that it
> produces is HORRIBLE.

I can agree that you may want autocomplete and color coding, maybe
even a gui preview but in that case (on Windows) use Notepadd++,
Firefox, and ALT+TAB. If you start in a GUI editor it tends to make
you lazy conseqently causes you to create bad sites. Its much more to
your advantage to RTFM and not take shortcuts.

-Mike

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-06 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-06 18:19 [gentoo-user] FTP Server Timothy A. Holmes
2006-06-06 20:23 ` Michael Crute [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-06-06 17:00 Timothy A. Holmes
2006-06-06 15:54 brettholcomb
2006-06-06 16:04 ` JimD
2006-06-06 15:46 Timothy A. Holmes
2006-06-06 15:38 JimD
2006-06-06 15:48 ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-06-06 16:03   ` JimD
2006-06-06 16:20   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2006-06-07 19:56   ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
2006-06-06 16:04 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-06-06 16:08 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2006-06-06 16:01   ` JimD
2006-06-06 16:22     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2006-06-06 17:27       ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-06-06 17:42         ` Bruno Lustosa
2006-06-06 17:46         ` Michael Crute
2006-06-06 18:10           ` Evan Klitzke
2006-06-06 18:44             ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-06-06 18:42       ` JimD
2006-06-06 16:53     ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2006-06-06 16:59   ` michael
2006-06-06 17:41     ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2006-06-06 17:42       ` michael
2006-06-06 20:11         ` Dave Moore
2006-06-06 16:44 ` Dave Moore
2006-06-06 18:48 ` Daniel
2006-06-07  1:11   ` Ryan Tandy
2006-06-07  8:25     ` Neil Bothwick
2006-06-07 19:34       ` Ryan Tandy

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