[gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Dave Nebinger]

I'm running postfix and tpop3d on my site for email delivery.

Everything is working great; internally I can send & receive, and externally 
I can send and receive also (using smtp auth for sending, & tpop3d for 
receiving).

However, I'd like to add the ability to check my email through my web server 
(although it's not running now, that's hardly the point ;-)

I'm looking for suggestions for a good package to plug into the web server 
to provide this functionality.

Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
package?

Thanks!

Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:32:57 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:

> I'm running postfix and tpop3d on my site for email delivery.
> 
> Everything is working great; internally I can send & receive, and
> externally I can send and receive also (using smtp auth for sending, &
> tpop3d for receiving).
> 
> However, I'd like to add the ability to check my email through my web
> server 

Most webmail packages require IMAP, not POP3. When I set up webmail, I
had to switch from teapop to dovecot first. Dovecot does POP3 and IMAP,
so everyone was happy.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Alexander Skwar]

Dave Nebinger schrieb:

> Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
> package?

Horde

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Jonathan Wright]

Alexander Skwar wrote:
>>Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
>>package?
> 
> Horde

Actually, Horde is the framework, IMP is the Mail Program :)

Anyway, Horde is a good enterprise-scale system, and once setup can work
well, esp. with the range of other plug-in modules that go with Horde
(Contact Management, Time Management, Calender, etc.). But, there are
must easier systems to setup and use. Squirrelmail being one of them.

Unless you want something and big and as powerful (and as resource
hungry - I run it on a PII-450 with 128Mb RAM and it's not that
responsive) as Horde, I'd recommend something else.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[kashani]

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Dave Nebinger schrieb:
> 
>>Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
>>package?
> 
> 
> Horde

Horde caveats:

1. must have +nls in mod_php
2. must be using a mod_php of no later than 4.3.11
3. moronic default settings for folder names and imap namespace.

4. v2 vs. v3.
	You have to decide between horde framework v2 and horde framework v3. 
v2 just works, but isn't as fancy. v3 does all kinds of stuff and... if 
you can spend the time to figure out how to turn it on. All v3 stuff is 
~x86 at the moment. Gentoo does make things a bit easier with slotting 
and webapps-config.

5. Everything is a separate package
	No really. If you've installed less than 4 packages you're probably 
missing features you expected to have.

6. There is NO documentation.
	As always there are number of decent posts in the Gentoo forums which 
helped me muddle through most things. The qmail virt how-to also 
explains some basic setup as well.

7. db is required
	I'm actually not sure about this one. It appears that a db is needed to 
do filtering. Since this is not working yet, I can't say for sure.

Can you guess which webmail package I've been attempting to subjugate 
for the past couple of hours?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Heinz Sporn]

Am Dienstag, den 27.09.2005, 03:40 -0500 schrieb kashani:
> Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > Dave Nebinger schrieb:
> > 
> >>Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
> >>package?
> > 
> > 
> > Horde
> 
> Horde caveats:
> 
> 1. must have +nls in mod_php
> 2. must be using a mod_php of no later than 4.3.11

Can't confirm that. I am running both Horde 2 and 3 with 4.4.0-r3.

> 3. moronic default settings for folder names and imap namespace.
> 
> 4. v2 vs. v3.
> 	You have to decide between horde framework v2 and horde framework v3. 
> v2 just works, but isn't as fancy. v3 does all kinds of stuff and... if 
> you can spend the time to figure out how to turn it on. All v3 stuff is 
> ~x86 at the moment. Gentoo does make things a bit easier with slotting 
> and webapps-config.
> 
> 5. Everything is a separate package
> 	No really. If you've installed less than 4 packages you're probably 
> missing features you expected to have.
> 
> 6. There is NO documentation.
> 	As always there are number of decent posts in the Gentoo forums which 
> helped me muddle through most things. The qmail virt how-to also 
> explains some basic setup as well.
> 
> 7. db is required
> 	I'm actually not sure about this one. It appears that a db is needed to 
> do filtering. Since this is not working yet, I can't say for sure.
> 
> Can you guess which webmail package I've been attempting to subjugate 
> for the past couple of hours?
> 
> kashani
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Jonathan Wright]

Heinz Sporn wrote:
>>2. must be using a mod_php of no later than 4.3.11
> 
> Can't confirm that. I am running both Horde 2 and 3 with 4.4.0-r3.

I have run it with 4.4.0 here, although now running with 4.3.11 as Zend
Debugger doesn't like the 4.4.x series atm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[kashani]

Jonathan Wright wrote:
> Heinz Sporn wrote:
> 
>>>2. must be using a mod_php of no later than 4.3.11
>>
>>Can't confirm that. I am running both Horde 2 and 3 with 4.4.0-r3.
> 
> 
> I have run it with 4.4.0 here, although now running with 4.3.11 as Zend
> Debugger doesn't like the 4.4.x series atm.
> 

Are you using the CVS versions of horde? I get all sort of errors on the 
front page as soone as I switch to php 4.4 and the Gentoo packages. 
There are a few threads in the forums that mention issues with 4.4.0 as 
well.

http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050712.145515.4bf53644.en.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-378684.html

And for the hell of it how does one get filtering to work in 
horde2/imp3? Strangely I can pull up the filter interface if I type the 
URL in manually, but can't make IMP put a link to it anywhere.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[A. Khattri]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, kashani wrote:

> Can you guess which webmail package I've been attempting to subjugate
> for the past couple of hours?

Ive seen a lot of admins struggle with Horde - and then move on to
SquirrelMail ;-)


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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Dave Nebinger]

> > Can you guess which webmail package I've been attempting to subjugate
> > for the past couple of hours?
> 
> Ive seen a lot of admins struggle with Horde - and then move on to
> SquirrelMail ;-)

Anyone out there using eGroupWare?  Looks good on the site and it would
appear to use most of the standard tools...


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[John Jolet]

On Tuesday 27 September 2005 12:51, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> > > Can you guess which webmail package I've been attempting to subjugate
> > > for the past couple of hours?
> >
> > Ive seen a lot of admins struggle with Horde - and then move on to
> > SquirrelMail ;-)
>
> Anyone out there using eGroupWare?  Looks good on the site and it would
> appear to use most of the standard tools...
I've got it installed.  I like the looks of it a lot, but my mail users are 
real os users, and you have to add the egroupware users into it's database.  
so i'd have to add everyone twice, and password changes would be a nightmare.  
so I pretty much don't use it.  I like the product, though, if I had virtural 
users.
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Dave Nebinger]

> > Anyone out there using eGroupWare?  Looks good on the site and it would
> > appear to use most of the standard tools...
> I've got it installed.  I like the looks of it a lot, but my mail users
> are
> real os users, and you have to add the egroupware users into it's
> database.
> so i'd have to add everyone twice, and password changes would be a
> nightmare.
> so I pretty much don't use it.  I like the product, though, if I had
> virtural
> users.

Cool.  This is going on my home system so, whilst I would have double user
headaches, since I'm only talking about 5 users it shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Michael Crute]

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On 9/27/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
>
> I've got it installed. I like the looks of it a lot, but my mail users are
> real os users, and you have to add the egroupware users into it's
> database.
> so i'd have to add everyone twice, and password changes would be a
> nightmare.
> so I pretty much don't use it. I like the product, though, if I had
> virtural
> users.
>
> Well, you could write a simple script to change both (or many more)
passwords at the same time using PHP, Python, or any other language with
mysql functions thus making eGroupware a very viable option.
 -Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Mark Shields]

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Or you could use OpenLDAP:

mark@laeb / $ esearch ^openldap
[ Results for search key : ^openldap ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

* net-nds/openldap
Latest version available: 2.2.28
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of downloaded files: 4,565 kB
Homepage: http://www.OpenLDAP.org/
Description: LDAP suite of application and development tools
License: OPENLDAP


On 9/27/05, Michael Crute <mcrute@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/27/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
> >
> > I've got it installed. I like the looks of it a lot, but my mail users
> > are
> > real os users, and you have to add the egroupware users into it's
> > database.
> > so i'd have to add everyone twice, and password changes would be a
> > nightmare.
> > so I pretty much don't use it. I like the product, though, if I had
> > virtural
> > users.
> >
> > Well, you could write a simple script to change both (or many more)
> passwords at the same time using PHP, Python, or any other language with
> mysql functions thus making eGroupware a very viable option.
>  -Mike
>
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>



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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Web mail suggestions...

[Eray Aslan]

> Anybody out there able to point me to an existing open-source, solid 
> package?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 

I've had no problems with squirrelmail so far: www.squirrelmail.com

Eray

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