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From: Michael Crute <mcrute@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?
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First of all, sorry about top posting that's the way Gmail does it and you=
=20
cant change the settings.=20
Also if you are looking for a lazy man's way of getting a package=20
description try `emerge -s packagename` and it prints out a lot of=20
information as well as a short description of the package. I have never see=
n=20
a long description such as those used to build Debian packages anywhere in=
=20
portage and don't really think it would be useful anyhow. So try emerge -s=
=20
and if you need more info go to the packae's website. That would be my=20
advice. Oh, and emerge -s works off the metadata so you dint need an=20
Internet connection.
-Mike.=20
On 8/24/05, Fernando Canizo <conan@lugmen.org.ar> wrote:
>=20
> El 24/ago/2005 a las 04:01 -0300, Jonas me dec=EDa:
> > >Second, the whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems.=20
> Meaning, a
> > >solution not involving the Internet... =3D)
> > If you're refering to the fact that the person doesn't have an internet
> > connection when he wants to view this information throught the emerge
> > interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you're just
> > searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , when you
> > need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url (if
> > you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) 3) search
> > for the package on the website , while instead you could just do
> > something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes more
> > sence ?
>=20
> Exactly! That's what i'm refering to. It's not an issues of connection=20
> it's an
> issue of lazyness! It's like: "-- hey what are you doing this weekend? --=
=20
> don't
> know, it's cold and raining, i think i'm gonna sit in my throne and check=
=20
> what's
> new on 'app-vim' to improve my vimyness, if find something interesting=20
> i'll
> check the package webpage."
>=20
> For now i'm using 'questo':
> =3D=3D=3D script =3D=3D=3D=3D
> #!/bin/bash
> # lun may 2 20:57:24 ART 2005
> # conan - GPLed
> #
> # script to check for apps on rainy sunday morning
>=20
> BASE_DIR=3D"/usr/portage/"
>=20
> [ $# -ne 1 ] && echo "Uso: questo <category>" && exit 0
>=20
> cd $BASE_DIR$1
> for package in * ; do
> eix "^$paquete\$"
> echo "Looking for: $1/$paquete. ENTER to continue..."
> read
> done
> =3D=3D=3D end script =3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> Now i took sugestion from Ciaran to look in metadata.xml, i check a coupl=
e=20
> by
> hand and see the 'longdesc' field but... with short descriptions! Now=20
> maybe i
> just choose two with bad luck, but i got a feeling that gentoo maintainer=
s
> doesn't like to provide longdesc, although there is the posibility.
>=20
> I was thinking of doing a little script that gives longdesc found in=20
> metadata to
> confirm this, but since i don't know nothing about xml, think it gonna=20
> take a
> little bit more that if there were already an application to check '
> metadata.xml'
> fields. 'emerge', 'equery' and 'eix' wich are the administration tools i=
=20
> use
> everyday don't say nothing about this, i think all of them use de=20
> description
> field in ebuilds. I wonder if somebody knows another app to do this?
>=20
> If not, the idea of the script is more less this:
> lslongdesc package|category|all
>=20
> where:
> - 'package' gives longdesc of package
> - 'category' gives longdesc of all packages in category
> - and 'all' gives them all flooding your screen with info you never gonna=
=20
> eat...
> but that is there.
>=20
> It's so simple that i'm sure there must be an app (or compound of them)=
=20
> that
> already do this.
>=20
> --
> Fernando Canizo - http://www.lugmen.org.ar/~conan/
> Olmstead's Law:
> After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>=20
>=20
--=20
________________________________
Michael E. Crute
Software Developer
SoftGroup Development Corporation
Linux, because reboots are for installing hardware.
"In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?"
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First of all, sorry about top posting that's the way Gmail does it and you =
cant change the settings. <br>
<br>
Also if you are looking for a lazy man's way of getting a package
description try `emerge -s packagename` and it prints out a lot of
information as well as a short description of the package. I have never
seen a long description such as those used to build Debian packages
anywhere in portage and don't really think it would be useful anyhow.
So try emerge -s and if you need more info go to the packae's website.
That would be my advice. Oh, and emerge -s works off the metadata so
you dint need an Internet connection.<br>
<br>
-Mike. <br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8/24/05, <b class=3D"gma=
il_sendername">Fernando Canizo</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:conan@lugmen.org.a=
r">conan@lugmen.org.ar</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
El 24/ago/2005 a las 04:01 -0300, Jonas me dec=EDa:<br>> >Second, the=
whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems. Meaning, a<br>> >=
;solution not involving the Internet... =3D)<br>> If you're refering to =
the fact that the person doesn't have an internet
<br>> connection when he wants to view this information throught the eme=
rge<br>> interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you'r=
e just<br>> searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , =
when you
<br>> need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url=
(if<br>> you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) =
3) search<br>> for the package on the website , while instead you could =
just do
<br>> something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes=
more<br>> sence ?<br><br>Exactly! That's what i'm refering to. It's not=
an issues of connection it's an<br>issue of lazyness! It's like: "-- =
hey what are you doing this weekend? -- don't
<br>know, it's cold and raining, i think i'm gonna sit in my throne and che=
ck what's<br>new on 'app-vim' to improve my vimyness, if find something int=
eresting i'll<br>check the package webpage."<br><br>For now i'm using =
'questo':
<br>=3D=3D=3D script =3D=3D=3D=3D<br>#!/bin/bash<br># lun may 2 =
20:57:24 ART 2005<br># conan - GPLed<br>#<br># script to check for apps on =
rainy sunday morning<br><br>BASE_DIR=3D"/usr/portage/"<br><br>[ $=
# -ne 1 ] && echo "Uso: questo <category>" &&am=
p; exit 0
<br><br>cd $BASE_DIR$1<br>for package in * ; do<br> =
eix "^$paquete\$"<br> &n=
bsp; echo "Looking for: $1/$paquete. ENTER to c=
ontinue..."<br> read<br=
>done<br>=3D=3D=3D end script =3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>Now i took sugestion from=
Ciaran to look in=20
metadata.xml, i check a couple by<br>hand and see the 'longdesc' field but.=
.. with short descriptions! Now maybe i<br>just choose two with bad luck, b=
ut i got a feeling that gentoo maintainers<br>doesn't like to provide longd=
esc, although there is the posibility.
<br><br>I was thinking of doing a little script that gives longdesc found i=
n metadata to<br>confirm this, but since i don't know nothing about xml, th=
ink it gonna take a<br>little bit more that if there were already an applic=
ation to check '
metadata.xml'<br>fields. 'emerge', 'equery' and 'eix' wich are the administ=
ration tools i use<br>everyday don't say nothing about this, i think all of=
them use de description<br>field in ebuilds. I wonder if somebody knows an=
other app to do this?
<br><br>If not, the idea of the script is more less this:<br>lslongdesc pac=
kage|category|all<br><br>where:<br>- 'package' gives longdesc of package<br=
>- 'category' gives longdesc of all packages in category<br>- and 'all' giv=
es them all flooding your screen with info you never gonna eat...
<br> but that is there.<br><br>It's so simple that i'm sure ther=
e must be an app (or compound of them) that<br>already do this.<br><br>--<b=
r>Fernando Canizo - <a href=3D"http://www.lugmen.org.ar/~conan/">http://www=
.lugmen.org.ar/~conan/
</a><br>Olmstead's Law:<br> =
After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done.<br>--<b=
r><a href=3D"mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org">gentoo-user@gentoo.org</a> mail=
ing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br>
<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>________________________________<br>Michael E.=
Crute<br>Software Developer<br>SoftGroup Development Corporation<br><br>Li=
nux, because reboots are for installing hardware.<br>"In a world witho=
ut walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?"
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