From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0h8C-0005Tg-E2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:55:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j74ErrEl015142; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:53:53 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j74EnZlI002581 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:49:36 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so254550nzc for ; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HDWoqYaQBsLKsDeC0PMe/3gjbST28ro4g4wKUbSsn54rFelX+9wxL+EGpGUc8HlcERbIL8B3JC/PPTbR1QabaEcsoXWlu7cmTOxKeJ1q5IYJ1gkBaT3RjjWmZgfhRSdu08itck1Vc+hxfIFuT2ftNUGcyl2UQ3OdK39wXeG90R0= Received: by 10.37.20.51 with SMTP id x51mr705309nzi; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.6 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558b73fb0508040750757dfe33@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:50:17 -0400 From: Michael Crute To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Badges In-Reply-To: <342e10905080407374518e99c@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2856_5262930.1123167017635" References: <200508040843.16581.yeahsowhat@gmail.com> <200508040903.25072.yeahsowhat@gmail.com> <1123165678.13217.49.camel@baby.espersunited.com> <342e10905080407374518e99c@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 440c1d9e-80a2-460a-8cbf-7dc61960ed7c X-Archives-Hash: c6ebf2b069c0e653a545c711d4e98307 ------=_Part_2856_5262930.1123167017635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline At the expense of sounding like an "Elitist Chowderhead" I kind of agree=20 with Chris. I'm fairly new to Gentoo (but not to Linux). I came from Fedora= =20 and must say that personally Gentoo makes way more sense and pisses me off= =20 far less than any RedHat distro. But that said I would never recommend=20 Gentoo to a noob unless they where just as geeky as I. I would rather see= =20 normal people use distros like Mandriva and Linspire then graduate to Gento= o=20 when and if they are ready than to have them start at Gentoo then get pisse= d=20 off at their own inability to make the thing work and go back to Windoze.= =20 Just my $0.02, take it for what it's worth. -Mike On 8/4/05, Daniel da Veiga wrote: >=20 > Agreed in all terms!!! >=20 > On 8/4/05, Michael Sullivan wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 09:03 -0500, Chris Cox wrote: > > > On Thursday 04 August 2005 08:50 am, Ryan Viljoen wrote: > > > > Yeah so you just skipped n00b status? > > > > You never asked a stupid question? > > > > No I thought not. > > > > Thats the spirit lets keep Gentoo to ourselves so it can grow... > > > > > > > > *sigh* > > > > > > I was of course just kidding. I do like Gentoo but hey, it isn't the= =20 > right > > > choice for everyone. Some people I'm sure would prefer hand holding= =20 > and > > > fancy GUI installers that other Distros have a seem to cator to the= =20 > masses. > > > > > > DO you really think Gentoo should be the first Distro people new to= =20 > Linux > > > should turn to? > > > -- > > > Chris > > > Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP > > > 09:00:21 up 1 day, 14:07, 6 users, load average: 0.33, 0.23, 0.19 > > > > My first Linux was Red Hat 8.0. I then went to RH 9.0 and Fedora Core > > 1. I for one would not recommend Gentoo to a person who has never used > > Linux before. I certainly wouldn't have understood it. Think of it as > > a test of the strong: Newbies might choose Gentoo and run into all > > kinds of problems and ask stupid questions. Most will get frustrated > > and either leave Linux altogether or seek out a more user-friendly > > distrobution. The ones who stick around are the ones worth adding to > > the community. When I first came to Gentoo I asked a lot of stupid > > questions (still do) and I get frustrated with it sometimes but I know > > that this is what I want and so I'll stick with it. The newbies like > > that will stick around and they will ask stupid questions and learn fro= m > > those stupid questions and you will not be able to get rid of them no > > matter how hard you try. Linux is not for the faint of heart (that's > > what MSWindows is for.) If someone wants to learn Linux (Gentoo) and > > stick to it then they are worthy of our time... > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > >=20 >=20 > -- > Daniel da Veiga > Computer Operator - RS - Brazil > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- > PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >=20 > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >=20 >=20 --=20 ________________________________ Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" ------=_Part_2856_5262930.1123167017635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline At the expense of sounding like an "Elitist Chowderhead" I kind o= f agree with Chris. I'm fairly new to Gentoo (but not to Linux). I came from Fedora and must say that personally Gentoo makes way more sense and pisses me off far less than any RedHat distro. But that said I would never recommend Gentoo to a noob unless they where just as geeky as I. I would rather see normal people use distros like Mandriva and Linspire then graduate to Gentoo when and if they are ready than to have them start at Gentoo then get pissed off at their own inability to make the thing work and go back to Windoze. Just my $0.02, take it for what it's worth.

-Mike

On 8/4/05, Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed in all terms!!!

On 8/4/05, Michael Sullivan <michael@espersunited.com> wrote:
&= gt; On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 09:03 -0500, Chris Cox wrote:
> > On Thu= rsday 04 August 2005 08:50 am, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
> > > Yeah so you just skipped n00b status?
> > > = You never asked a stupid question?
> > > No I thought not.
&= gt; > > Thats the spirit lets keep Gentoo to ourselves so it can grow= ...
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> >
> > I was= of course just kidding.  I do like Gentoo but hey, it isn't the = right
> > choice for everyone.  Some people I'm sure wou= ld prefer hand holding and
> > fancy GUI installers that other Distros have a seem to cator = to the masses.
> >
> > DO you really think Gentoo should = be the first Distro people new to Linux
> > should turn to?
> > --
> > Chris
> > Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 i686 AM= D Athlon(tm) XP
> >  09:00:21 up 1 day, 14:07, &nbs= p;6 users,  load average: 0.33, 0.23, 0.19
>
> My fir= st Linux was Red Hat 8.0.  I then went to RH=20 9.0 and Fedora Core
> 1.  I for one would not recommend Gen= too to a person who has never used
> Linux before.  I certa= inly wouldn't have understood it.  Think of it as
> a test = of the strong:  Newbies might choose Gentoo and run into all
> kinds of problems and ask stupid questions.  Most will g= et frustrated
> and either leave Linux altogether or seek out a more = user-friendly
> distrobution.  The ones who stick around ar= e the ones worth adding to
> the community.  When I first came to Gentoo I asked a lo= t of stupid
> questions (still do) and I get frustrated with it somet= imes but I know
> that this is what I want and so I'll stick with it.=   The newbies like
> that will stick around and they will ask stupid questions and lear= n from
> those stupid questions and you will not be able to get rid o= f them no
> matter how hard you try.  Linux is not for the = faint of heart (that's
> what MSWindows is for.)  If someone wants to learn Linux= (Gentoo) and
> stick to it then they are worthy of our time...
&g= t;
> --
> gentoo-user= @gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Daniel da Veiga
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