From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E0UrW-0007EB-EI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:49:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j741m4nm000155; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 01:48:04 GMT Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.202]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j741iWUv008429 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 01:44:33 GMT Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so183089nzc for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NFsjbkxcnrHOmPeyn68ujJeM4PgHOSk1Jov70Plx200sjE3LaINJ77ZSh71zh3cVX+2b3X7VZiD/motw1hiHxIhTutowaeNjMEXT5MWc2/BDK3X4k3vkM8fMq37GrEvDtgoERE0pVcXm0aW61Cl34JlKztye+4p9YxYXMDO/djk= Received: by 10.36.178.17 with SMTP id a17mr589865nzf; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.9.6 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2005 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <558b73fb050803184537d30df2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 21:45:08 -0400 From: Michael Crute To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install In-Reply-To: <42F16928.1040606@interlynx.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_949_25592708.1123119908778" References: <42F16928.1040606@interlynx.net> X-Archives-Salt: 88d6b807-47fc-4bca-a0fc-2c93b7032a68 X-Archives-Hash: 37da947c1121161fcdd82e881458c3cf ------=_Part_949_25592708.1123119908778 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you=20 haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theor= y=20 it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run "Xorg= =20 --configure" as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.ne= w=20 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. In practice it usually takes a bit= =20 more tweaking. On my machine X wouldn't recognize my mouse at all till I=20 told it where it was (/dev/input/mice) and even after that it took some=20 tweaking to make all 5 buttons do what I wanted them to do. I also loaded= =20 the nvidia driver because otherwise the graphics suck. After that you're=20 home free. Here's some links to some step by steps if you like. (Note that= =20 you don't need the manufactures graphics drivers if your on a server but on= =20 a desktop I wouldn't run without them.) Let me know if you have anymore=20 troubles. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml -Mike P.S. The first time your issue with eth0 could have been corrected by fixin= g=20 a kernel parameter that you missed and recompiling just the kernel and=20 modules :) On 8/3/05, C.Beamer wrote: >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but I don't know > exactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details. >=20 > First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux. I have installed > source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), but > have never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo. > However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I > really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation that > doesn't required you to be a "geek" to understand (I'm a wanna be > "geek", but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ). >=20 > Okay, short story first. This was my second attempt at installing > Gentoo. The first time, I got to the point where I could boot from the > hard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e. my isp via > cable modem), I had no connection. I had missed a step somewhere. >=20 > Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly where I > had missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't sure > if I could recover from that point. This wasn't a problem and it was a > good learning experience. Attempt 2 was successful in that I could boot > my system and eth0 was recognized and functional. >=20 > From here, I did a quantum leap. I didn't know where to start so, I > just typed 'emerge kde' 3 days later, kde was installed along with X, > which of course I know kde is dependent on. At this point, I tried to > startx to see what the system looked like and to try to determine > exactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had any > further components to install. Well, that's where my problem starts. >=20 > After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back > again with the following printed on the screen: >=20 > New driver is "i810" > (=3D=3D)Using default built in configuration > (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device --> I have no idea what this means > (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) > (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has > agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded > (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration > Fatal server error: > no screens found >=20 > Now for the details: >=20 > When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typed > gentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=3Don >=20 > The reason that I did this was because when I had Fedora Core installed > on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot - > I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5 >=20 > I didn't install any extra kernel modules because when I got to the > point in the Handbook that showed the command to list the available > modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, so > left well enough alone. >=20 > Probably not relevant to this issue, but in my make.conf file, I > probably went overboard with the USE flags. I included everything that > I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in the > make.defaults file. >=20 > In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that the Handbook said > could be used because from what I read in the Handbook, I didn't think I > needed to. >=20 > Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - an > Intel i810 chip. > Specifics: >=20 > Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memor= y=20 > (DVM) technology architecture. >=20 > Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought that > I should have installed an extra kernel module): >=20 > Graphics architecture: Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology >=20 > Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) > 2D and 3D graphics accelerator >=20 > Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory=20 > (SDRAM) >=20 > Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory >=20 > Video resolutions >=20 > 800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors >=20 > 1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors >=20 > 1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors >=20 > 1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors >=20 > The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551, > which has always been recognized on other Linux installs (as far back as > Redhat 9.0), so I don't think that it is special. >=20 > Any ideas where I went wrong? Is this recoverable without having to > reinstall everything? >=20 > I don't mind reinstalling. I'm doing this on an old PC (600 MHz Celeron > processor). The idea is to get Gentoo to the point where I have my > Fedora Core system and if I can do that, I'm going to ditch FC4 in > favour of Gentoo. >=20 > Oh another piece of info. This has to be something that I missed > doing. The computer I'm using once had Fedora Core 3 on it, I have > tried Ubuntu on it and I can run a Knoppix 3.9 live CD on it, so I know > that I should be able to install Gentoo on it. >=20 > If the concensus is that I should again start from scratch, any ideas on > what I should have done would be appreciated so that I don't repeat my > mistakes. >=20 > Thanks for the patience in reading this. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Colleen > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >=20 >=20 --=20 ________________________________ Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" ------=_Part_949_25592708.1123119908778 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Colleen,
Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run "Xorg --configure" as root then copy the xorg config file fro= m /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. In practice it usually takes a bit more tweaking. On my machine X wouldn't recognize my mouse at all till I told it where it was (/dev/input/mice) and even after that it took some tweaking to make all 5 buttons do what I wanted them to do. I also loaded the nvidia driver because otherwise the graphics suck. After that you're home free. Here's some links to some step by steps if you like. (Note that you don't need the manufactures graphics drivers if your on a server but on a desktop I wouldn't run without them.) Let me know if you have anymore troubles.

http://www.gentoo.= org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
http://www.gentoo= .org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/= doc/en/ati-faq.xml

-Mike

P.S. The first time your issue with eth0 could have been corrected by fixing a kernel parameter that you missed and recompiling just the kernel and modules :)

On 8/3/05, C.Beamer <cbeamer@interl= ynx.net> wrote:
Hello all,

This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but = I don't know
exactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details.
First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux.  I have ins= talled
source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), but<= br>have never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo.However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I
really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation thatdoesn't required you to be a "geek" to understand (I'm a wanna = be
"geek", but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ).

Okay, short story first.  This was my second attempt at installin= g
Gentoo.  The first time, I got to the point where I could bo= ot from the
hard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e.= my isp via
cable modem), I had no connection.  I had missed a= step somewhere.

Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly whe= re I
had missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't = sure
if I could recover from that point.  This wasn't a proble= m and it was a
good learning experience.  Attempt 2 was successful in that I= could boot
my system and eth0 was recognized and functional.

Fro= m here, I did a quantum leap.  I didn't know where to start so, I=
just typed 'emerge kde'  3 days later, kde was installed alon= g with X,
which of course I know kde is dependent on.  At this point, I= tried to
startx to see what the system looked like and to try to determ= ine
exactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had anyfurther components to install.  Well, that's where my problem st= arts.

After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt b= ack
again with the following printed on the screen:

New driver is= "i810"
(=3D=3D)Using default built in configuration
(EE) o= pen /dev/fb0: No such device --> I have no idea what this means
(EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)<= br>(EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.  Make sure your = kernel has
agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded(EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration
Fatal server error:
no screens found

Now for the details:
=
When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typed=
gentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=3Don

The reason that I did this was= because when I had Fedora Core installed
on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot = -
I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5

I didn't i= nstall any extra kernel modules because when I got to the
point in the H= andbook that showed the command to list the available
modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, s= o
left well enough alone.

Probably not relevant to this issue, bu= t in my make.conf file, I
probably went overboard with the USE flags.&nb= sp; I included everything that
I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in the
make.def= aults file.

In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that t= he Handbook said
could be used because from what I read in the Handbook,= I didn't think I
needed to.

Graphics integrated into the system board into the sy= stem board: - an
Intel i810 chip.
Specifics:

Integrated Intel = Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology = architecture.

Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought = that
I should have installed an extra kernel module):

Graphics ar= chitecture:  Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology

G= raphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)
2D and 3D graphics accelerator

Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz sync= hronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM)

Graphics memory: Dynami= cally assigned from system memory

Video resolutions

800 x 600= pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with=20 16.7 million colors

1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,00= 0 colors

1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors
<= br>1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors

The compute= r is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551,
which has always been recognized on other Linux installs (as far back a= s
Redhat 9.0), so I don't think that it is special.

Any ideas whe= re I went wrong?  Is this recoverable without having to
reinst= all everything?

I don't mind reinstalling.  I'm doing this on an old PC (= 600 MHz Celeron
processor).  The idea is to get Gentoo to the = point where I have my
Fedora Core system and if I can do that, I'm going= to ditch FC4 in
favour of Gentoo.

Oh another piece of info.  This has = to be something that I missed
doing.  The computer I'm using o= nce had Fedora Core 3 on it, I have
tried Ubuntu on it and I can run a K= noppix 3.9 live CD on it, so I know
that I should be able to install Gentoo on it.

If the concensus = is that I should again start from scratch, any ideas on
what I should ha= ve done would be appreciated so that I don't repeat my
mistakes.

Thanks for the patience in reading this.

Regards,

Colleen=
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org<= /a> mailing list




-- ________________________________
Michael E. Crute
Software Developer<= br>SoftGroup Development Corporation

"In a world without walls = and fences, who needs windows and gates?" ------=_Part_949_25592708.1123119908778-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list