[gentoo-user] skype

[gentoo-user] skype

[Matthew R. Lee]

Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
/opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory
revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that library.
I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now been 
package.masked
This is a real pain in the buttocks.  How can I phone home now? I can't afford 
the rip-off international phone charges at the moment!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Dale]

Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot 
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that library.
> I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now been 
> package.masked
> This is a real pain in the buttocks.  How can I phone home now? I can't afford 
> the rip-off international phone charges at the moment!
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
> Matt
>   

I never used Skype, never even seen it run before.  I did read on this
list that it needs version 3 of qt.  If you don't have that installed,
may be worth a try.  I have this installed on mine.  x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r2

I hope that helps.  Long distance phone calls do suck.  I can't imagine
international calls.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 17 June 2007 17:32:10 Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that
> library. I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now
> been package.masked
> This is a real pain in the buttocks.  How can I phone home now? I can't
> afford the rip-off international phone charges at the moment!
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Comment 11 in bug #182248 [1] contains the best ebuild for skype at the 
moment. But you need to rebuild =x11-libs/qt-4* with the accessibility and 
dbus use flags enabled. See bug #179568 [2] for further reference. Older 
versions have been package.mask due to upstream licensing issues and the fact 
that upstream made them unavailable. There's a recent thread about that in 
gentoo-dev mailing list archives.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182248#c11
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179568

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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Uwe Thiem]

On 17 June 2007, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that
> library. I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now
> been package.masked

It seems the new version of skype depends on Qt4 while you propably have 
installed Qt3. One *can* install both versions, but it's a bit tricky to make 
Qt3-dependent packages (like KDE 3.x) compile correctly when both versions 
are present. I think there is a tutorial or just a post to the forums about 
it.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Kent Fredric]

On 6/18/07, Uwe Thiem <uwix@iway.na> wrote:
> On 17 June 2007, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> > Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> > When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> > /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4:
> > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> > Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that
> > library. I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now
> > been package.masked
>
> It seems the new version of skype depends on Qt4 while you propably have
> installed Qt3. One *can* install both versions, but it's a bit tricky to make
> Qt3-dependent packages (like KDE 3.x) compile correctly when both versions
> are present. I think there is a tutorial or just a post to the forums about
> it.
>
> Uwe
>
Installed versions:
3.3.8-r2 (cups -debug doc examples -firebird gif -immqt -immqt-bc ipv6
mysql nas -nis -odbc opengl postgres sqlite xinerama)
4.3.0 (accessibility cups dbus -debug doc examples -firebird gif glib
-input_devices_wacom jpeg mng mysql nas -nis -odbc opengl pch png
postgres qt3support sqlite sqlite3 ssl tiff xinerama zlib)

I have both installed, I don't recall doing anything 'special' as
iirc, they use different directory systems, and by default the $QTDIR
is pointed to the 3.X last i looked.

KDE3.X compiles without a prob here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Sonntag, 17. Juni 2007, Uwe Thiem wrote:

> It seems the new version of skype depends on Qt4 while you propably have
> installed Qt3. One *can* install both versions, but it's a bit tricky to
> make Qt3-dependent packages (like KDE 3.x) compile correctly when both
> versions are present. I think there is a tutorial or just a post to the
> forums about it.

that is completly not true, absolutly wrong.

qt3 and qt4 can both be installed without ANYTHING to do for the user. There 
are no tricks, no settings, nothing.

You want to consult the documentation, especially the part about SLOTS.
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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Dale]

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Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Sonntag, 17. Juni 2007, Uwe Thiem wrote:
>
>   
>> It seems the new version of skype depends on Qt4 while you propably have
>> installed Qt3. One *can* install both versions, but it's a bit tricky to
>> make Qt3-dependent packages (like KDE 3.x) compile correctly when both
>> versions are present. I think there is a tutorial or just a post to the
>> forums about it.
>>     
>
> that is completly not true, absolutly wrong.
>
> qt3 and qt4 can both be installed without ANYTHING to do for the user. There 
> are no tricks, no settings, nothing.
>
> You want to consult the documentation, especially the part about SLOTS.
>   
You may also need to add these USE flags to your make.conf too.  qt3
qt4  I have both version 3 and version 4 on mine and I THINK I had to
put that in there to get it to sort out the usage by different programs.

Hope that helps too.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:30:50 Dale wrote:
> > that is completly not true, absolutly wrong.
> >
> > qt3 and qt4 can both be installed without ANYTHING to do for the user.
> > There are no tricks, no settings, nothing.
> >
> > You want to consult the documentation, especially the part about SLOTS.
>
> You may also need to add these USE flags to your make.conf too.  qt3
> qt4  I have both version 3 and version 4 on mine and I THINK I had to
> put that in there to get it to sort out the usage by different programs.

Irrelevant. Those use flags are for optional dependencies only. This depency 
on qt:4 isn't optional.

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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Ilya Hegai]

2007/6/17, Matthew R. Lee <gentoo@matthewlee.org>:
> Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that library.
> I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now been
> package.masked
> This is a real pain in the buttocks.  How can I phone home now? I can't afford
> the rip-off international phone charges at the moment!
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
> Matt

just took a look at the ebuild
you can use qt-static USE flag to tell portage to download and install
skype statically built with qt
(similar to opera browser, if you use it)
so you don't need to install qt4 separately

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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 17 June 2007, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 17 June 2007, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> > Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint
> > working. When I tried running it from the command line I get the
> > following: /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> > directory
> > revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> > Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides
> > that library. I've tried down-grading to the previous version but
> > that's now been package.masked
>
> It seems the new version of skype depends on Qt4 while you propably
> have installed Qt3. One *can* install both versions, but it's a bit
> tricky to make Qt3-dependent packages (like KDE 3.x) compile
> correctly when both versions are present. I think there is a tutorial
> or just a post to the forums about it.

/me racks brains for an old memory...

Didn't skype-1.3 come out with a version that included a statically 
linked version of qt? Is that still the case?

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] skype

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2007/6/17, Matthew R. Lee <gentoo@matthewlee.org>:
> Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working.
> When I tried running it from the command line I get the following:
> /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
> revdep-rebuild doesn't pick any thing up
> Do I have to rebuild Qt? or another package?  which one provides that library.

I don't think so, i mean, looking at the error message it seems that
something is missing, in this case Qt4.

> I've tried down-grading to the previous version but that's now been
> package.masked
> This is a real pain in the buttocks.  How can I phone home now? I can't afford
> the rip-off international phone charges at the moment!
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
> Matt

My suggestion is to download the last version if skype with an static
Qt library compiled.
I have Qt 3 and Qt 4 working in my system, this means is OK to have
both installed.

So, download the static skype version from here:

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/

and see what happens. Everything should work just fine. =)

Richard
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[gentoo-user] Skype

[Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku]

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Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.

I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
worth trying to figure it out."

I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
but I need to have some better understanding).

I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
actually wasn't getting good information...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[Mick]

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On Monday, 27 November 2017 17:10:26 GMT Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote:
> Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
> was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
> to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
> happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
> that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
> just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.

Both versions of net-im/skypeforlinux are keyworded at present.  I don't know 
if they've been on the tree for more than 30 days, without any bugs reported.  
I'm using 5.5.0.1 at present and have not noticed any problems, but my use of 
it is rather limited.


> I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
> it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
> 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
> system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
> When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
> distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
> doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
> always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
> worth trying to figure it out."

From what I recall 'stable' means no bugs reported in the last 30 days.


> I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
> work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
> whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
> approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
> something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
> but I need to have some better understanding).

Yes, Gentoo is more work than any point & click to install/maintain/upgrade 
binary distro.  This is the nature of the beast, but you probably know this if 
you've been using Gentoo for all these years.


> I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
> actually wasn't getting good information...

My understanding of Linux and Gentoo in particular is that nothing is 
"supported".  What you get is the outcome of best endeavours, kind hearted 
volunteers care to contribute.  Of course, if you have signed a support 
contract with RHL things may be different.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[Corbin]

On 11/27/2017 11:10 AM, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote:
> Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
> was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
> to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
> happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
> that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
> just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.
>
> I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
> it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
> 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
> system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
> When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
> distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
> doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
> always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
> worth trying to figure it out."
>
> I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
> work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
> whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
> approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
> something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
> but I need to have some better understanding).
>
> I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
> actually wasn't getting good information...
>
personal opinion/

It is the software author / maintainer being stupid.

Two Possibilities :

# 1 : They can't do it right the first time, so they get to constantly
redo it.

# 2 : Skype is a MS product. MS still ( on purpose ) breaks their
software routinely so it will not work on other OS's.

NOTE : Microsoft has a reputation for being a "feckless weasel" when it
comes to what is supported and how it is supported.

/personal opinion.

Corbin

Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[R0b0t1]

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Hello,

On Monday, November 27, 2017, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku <
jigme.datse@datsemultimedia.com> wrote:
> Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
> was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
> to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
> happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
> that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
> just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.
>
> I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
> it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
> 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
> system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
> When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
> distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
> doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
> always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
> worth trying to figure it out."
>
> I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
> work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
> whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
> approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
> something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
> but I need to have some better understanding).
>
> I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
> actually wasn't getting good information...
>

If it is keyworded it is "supported" unless you are using very niche
software. This does not mean anyone will be able to help you fix things
quickly.

Unstable packages typically run well. I routinely fix issues by using
unstable or even unkeyworded packages over the stable versions. Most issues
arise when stable and unstable packages interact, usually due to breaking
interface changes. So, paradoxically, an unstable (or testing) system can
be more stable than a stable system.

If you fix an issue by using an unstable package you can request
stabilization. Sometimes people forget to do it. For a package like Skype,
though, I suspect it will be stabilized as soon as possible.

Cheers,
    R0b0t1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[Lex Luthor]

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Yeah, MS can have some pretty malicious practices. When they acquired Skype
they *removed* the E2E encryption.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:02 PM, R0b0t1 <r030t1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku <
> jigme.datse@datsemultimedia.com> wrote:
> > Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo?  It feels like about 3 days ago I
> > was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
> > to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version.  If this keeps
> > happening, to me, this is broken.  And I'm not sure if the problem is
> > that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
> > just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.
> >
> > I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
> > it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
> > 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
> > system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
> > When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
> > distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
> > doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
> > always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
> > worth trying to figure it out."
> >
> > I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
> > work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
> > whole lot more work.  But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
> > approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
> > something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
> > but I need to have some better understanding).
> >
> > I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
> > actually wasn't getting good information...
> >
>
> If it is keyworded it is "supported" unless you are using very niche
> software. This does not mean anyone will be able to help you fix things
> quickly.
>
> Unstable packages typically run well. I routinely fix issues by using
> unstable or even unkeyworded packages over the stable versions. Most issues
> arise when stable and unstable packages interact, usually due to breaking
> interface changes. So, paradoxically, an unstable (or testing) system can
> be more stable than a stable system.
>
> If you fix an issue by using an unstable package you can request
> stabilization. Sometimes people forget to do it. For a package like Skype,
> though, I suspect it will be stabilized as soon as possible.
>
> Cheers,
>     R0b0t1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype

[Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku]

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On 11/27/2017 10:14 AM, Lex Luthor wrote:
> Yeah, MS can have some pretty malicious practices. When they acquired
> Skype they *removed* the E2E encryption.

I am only using it for people I occasionally contact who are using it.
Specifically there is a group who I am involved with is ~800 km away,
and my only contact is online, but they use Skype, so I looked to see
what was happening with that.



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