From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 045C2138330 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C834E0B22; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.21]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDD3E08F8 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.localnet) by smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1biGer-0006tk-RD for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 07:55:33 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash? Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:55:33 +0100 Message-ID: <5584812.dTIG13Ksqt@peak> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (Linux/4.7.3-gentoo; KDE/4.14.23; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1524381.MqZeQ5WDYz@dell_xps> References: <2985253.X3bczSHdg9@peak> <5266069.YhiAUk0eP0@peak> <1524381.MqZeQ5WDYz@dell_xps> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-smarthost03b-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: 0d366b72-8279-4719-b67a-a04f5380e0b1 X-Archives-Hash: 4b5a1ccede16ae95660310b24febfe1d On Thursday 08 Sep 2016 21:52:19 Mick wrote: > On Thursday 08 Sep 2016 09:07:50 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Sorry gents, but this has nothing to do with IMAP: the phenomenon is > > purely internal to KMail. Besides, I only have POP3 accounts (which I > > suppose I could have said before but it didn't seem significant). > > Ahh! POP3 is just a bucket of messages. It does not have a concept of > mailboxes/folders (not on the server anyway). Local folders and messages > being dropped into them is a manual exercise by the user, or achieved by > client filters. None of this is duplicated on the server. > > When you download a message and mark it for deletion, it is not not > deleted until the server enters the UPDATE stage, when the client quits. > The POP3 server does not move the deleted message anywhere, in another > mailbox and it will not mirror any moves of messages into local folders > on the client. Yes, of course I know all that. It's why I see the problem lying at KMail's door. > > Alan is closest: it's a matter of string contents somewhere in the KMail > > code. I just don't know whereabouts - nor do I want to fiddle around in > > the guts of the program, which is quite fragile enough already. One > > thing is being defined twice, or else it's defined once and only called > > in one of the two places where it should be, the other being hard > > coded. > > > > I've noticed both "trash" and "Wastebin" being used at different times > > over the last year, which hints at instability of program design and > > development management systems. > > Interestingly, my "Local Folders" contains a "trash" folder. I don't use > local folders (all my accounts are IMAP4) so I haven't paid attention to > this trash folder, or its name. I recall though that sometimes deleted > messages end up there, if the IMAP account is offline when I happened to > delete the message. From my failing memory I can attest this local > folder has been always called "trash", but I could well be mistaken. I wonder now whether it was worth starting this thread at all. :P -- Rgds Peter