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From: Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash?
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:55:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5584812.dTIG13Ksqt@peak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1524381.MqZeQ5WDYz@dell_xps>

On Thursday 08 Sep 2016 21:52:19 Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 08 Sep 2016 09:07:50 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Sorry gents, but this has nothing to do with IMAP: the phenomenon is
> > purely internal to KMail. Besides, I only have POP3 accounts (which I
> > suppose I could have said before but it didn't seem significant).
> 
> Ahh!  POP3 is just a bucket of messages.  It does not have a concept of
> mailboxes/folders (not on the server anyway).  Local folders and messages
> being dropped into them is a manual exercise by the user, or achieved by
> client filters.  None of this is duplicated on the server.
> 
> When you download a message and mark it for deletion, it is not not
> deleted until the server enters the UPDATE stage, when the client quits. 
> The POP3 server does not move the deleted message anywhere, in another
> mailbox and it will not mirror any moves of messages into local folders
> on the client.

Yes, of course I know all that. It's why I see the problem lying at KMail's 
door.

> > Alan is closest: it's a matter of string contents somewhere in the KMail
> > code. I just don't know whereabouts - nor do I want to fiddle around in
> > the guts of the program, which is quite fragile enough already. One
> > thing is being defined twice, or else it's defined once and only called
> > in one of the two places where it should be, the other being hard
> > coded.
> > 
> > I've noticed both "trash" and "Wastebin" being used at different times
> > over the last year, which hints at instability of program design and
> > development management systems.
> 
> Interestingly, my "Local Folders" contains a "trash" folder.  I don't use
> local folders (all my accounts are IMAP4) so I haven't paid attention to
> this trash folder, or its name.  I recall though that sometimes deleted
> messages end up there, if the IMAP account is offline when I happened to
> delete the message.  From my failing memory I can attest this local
> folder has been always called "trash", but I could well be mistaken.

I wonder now whether it was worth starting this thread at all.  :P

-- 
Rgds
Peter



  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-09  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-07 15:45 [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash? Peter Humphrey
2016-09-07 16:47 ` Andrew Lowe
2016-09-07 17:41   ` Mick
2016-09-07 17:53     ` Simon Thelen
2016-09-07 18:51       ` Alan McKinnon
2016-09-07 19:28         ` Mick
2016-09-08  8:07           ` Peter Humphrey
2016-09-08 20:52             ` Mick
2016-09-09  7:55               ` Peter Humphrey [this message]
2016-09-07 19:17       ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards

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