From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05482138CD0 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 07:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 856E7E089F; Sat, 30 May 2015 07:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f193.google.com (mail-wi0-f193.google.com [209.85.212.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A47E07AE for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 07:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wivz2 with SMTP id z2so466226wiv.0 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 00:53:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6NmL31cxQTbJdjFVlNdswkhXO2w3ktHQ7po+YTvHJIg=; b=OZIyGYJz4FHMRXdNCcX+OwxvloUXcfXQ/RYi9JeEGg+sbvSbQhWIgL5M9ni5Kl2STo 2CKoH3WOs96zWba1Sp8urA3dP0ensTVujoA3C/Jw4i9V9JTnUj6moE9aFLxbA9cUKbd5 x90i7v8Mit2gfwkUq6Gmy2WYc5sVvL3WV5eGbK1ma4IV2uSdCo8YfrFnNKFEc4JGlCQO 3sSXw2M6csmqYLnIi5ixKRUrGsoyCP2yMIW8NyWfJ4Suw+ZbHCJch8pfRrKaWsBdxdMj /eLKU9mP7H0AsSpWZRwyoMNMzvD4qCwgqb7IUbjWq7pmQG3YtyGkdMrl/Wp39IQGQkb3 7Rcg== X-Received: by 10.180.76.228 with SMTP id n4mr2853624wiw.44.1432972407138; Sat, 30 May 2015 00:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] (105-237-230-88.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.230.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ef10sm11664755wjd.49.2015.05.30.00.53.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 May 2015 00:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55696C73.1070607@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 09:53:23 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe. References: <2988031.1MpZN5Nf01@wstn> <201505291619.40615.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <556885B9.1080801@verizon.net> <201505291654.36290.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201505291654.36290.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fa0f43e7-d3b4-4dfd-bfa0-61e76721befc X-Archives-Hash: 7b42ee1220f9cf498a55f261ef39f84e On 29/05/2015 17:54, Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: >>>> I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally >>>> [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata > 1.0) >>>> was not being started. >>>> >>>> [1] Whenever I've had KMail screw up I've created a new user and >>>> re-imported its 14,000 e-mails, and until this latest time I've copied >>>> the .mozilla directory from the old user to the new. This time I did >>>> not, and so far all looks rosy. I'm not counting any chickens yet >>>> though. >>> >>> Did you try deleting the akonadi database file(s) and restarting it >>> instead of creating a new user? You will have to be patient, probably >>> let it run overnight to asynchronously sync and re-index all your >>> messages. >> >> What in god's name is that stupid database for anyway? Does it perform >> any useful function? Is there any tool that gives the user any >> measurable benefit that even justifies one one hundredth of the CPU and >> disk bandwidth consumed by this missfeature? > > I think you're preaching to the converted here. I don't think you'll find > many advocates in this M/L who support the KDE4 desktop design decision as a > sound architectural choice for your average Linux user. I think they were > trying to market a desktop for the enterprise and were following Gnome's > approach of semantic content searches. > > Other than the odd bug here and there I was perfectly happy with KDE3 and > Kmail1 (still using with kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.11.1-r1). > Akonadi was supposed to be a once-size-fits-all central store of all pim info (contacts, addresses, mails and all metadata about that) which any and all apps could use. The vision was that an enormous awesome ecosystem all buying into the OneGrandVision(tm) would spontaneously spring up, thereby validating the existence of akonadi itself due to a magic self-fulfilling prophecy. This did not happen. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com