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[105.237.166.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 16sm5607128wjs.41.2015.04.21.22.42.01 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Apr 2015 22:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <553734A7.2080608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 07:41:59 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] stable java virtuals require unstable java packages References: <5535E331.1040508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 64114f16-640b-4417-a7f9-05ad528ed3b2 X-Archives-Hash: c1e3e4edcd921e7c05ee43240115ed11 On 21/04/2015 20:54, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > On 21/04/2015 07:28, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > Is it normal for a stable virtual to require an unstable package? > > > No, that is definitely not how virtuals should work. > > It's either a bug in virtual/jdk-1.7 ebuild or more likely, stable > request for icedtead-bin-7 is lagging behind. > > I know the java team is badly understaffed, lots of mentions on -dev, so > maybe log a stable request but against icedtea-bin-7 > > > > > > > Running 'emerge -auND' generates the following output on my system: > > > > Calculating dependencies .... ....... done! > > [ebuild NS ~] dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3 [6.1.13.5] USE="X alsa > > cups nsplugin -cjk -doc -examples (-selinux) -source -webstart" > > [ebuild NS ] virtual/jdk-1.7.0 [1.6.0-r2] > > [ebuild NS ] virtual/jre-1.7.0 [1.6.0-r1] > > [ebuild U ~] dev-java/icedtea-web-1.5.1-r1 [1.4.2] USE="icedtea7%* > > -tagsoup%" > > > > The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: > > (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for > more details) > > # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo > > # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo > > # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[java] > > # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[berkdb] > > # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::gentoo > > # required by @selected > > # required by @world (argument) > > =dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3 ~x86 > > # required by dev-java/icedtea-bin-7.2.5.3::gentoo[nsplugin] > > # required by virtual/jdk-1.7.0::gentoo > > # required by virtual/jre-1.7.0::gentoo > > # required by sys-libs/db-4.8.30-r2::gentoo[java] > > # required by dev-libs/redland-1.0.16::gentoo[berkdb] > > # required by app-office/libreoffice-4.4.1.2::gentoo > > # required by @selected > > # required by @world (argument) > > =dev-java/icedtea-web-1.5.1-r1 ~x86 > > > > /usr/portage/virtual/jre/jre-1.7.0.ebuild:12 > > =virtual/jdk-1.7.0* > > /usr/portage/virtual/jdk/jdk-1.7.0.ebuild:12,13 > > =dev-java/icedtea-bin-7* > > =dev-java/icedtea-7* > > > > Thanks. > > > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > > Understood. Thanks. Turns out the virtual is working as designed - see Andreas's post above I recall now a discussion on -dev about this ages ago, and a consensus emerged then to keep things as they currently are (changing it requires much effort and has all manner of effects on the tree). The actual rule is: A virtual can (by definition) be stable as soon as one of its providers is stable. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com