[gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Another > 5 yr server that needs some care.

sys-fs/udev-151-r4 and a kernel without CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set.

The old udev blocks openrc etc etc ...

Aside from: "install from scratch" ->

what happens if I upgrade udev before booting a kernel with
CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set?

Problems?

I'd like to upgrade udev, then install openrc etc ... before I can drive
there and reboot the box.

Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 20/04/2015 14:51, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> 
> Another > 5 yr server that needs some care.
> 
> sys-fs/udev-151-r4 and a kernel without CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set.
> 
> The old udev blocks openrc etc etc ...
> 
> Aside from: "install from scratch" ->
> 
> what happens if I upgrade udev before booting a kernel with
> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set?
> 
> Problems?

Yes, it won't work. And the ebuild will error out.
> 
> I'd like to upgrade udev, then install openrc etc ... before I can drive
> there and reboot the box.


You intend to drive there anyway and reboot it. Rebuilding udev & openrc
will probably take 15 minutes.

It's such a little time, why are you trying to save 15 minutes in
advance by taking an unknown and risky path? Just do everything on-site,
it's safest


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

On 20.04.2015 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:

>> Problems?
> 
> Yes, it won't work. And the ebuild will error out.

Ah, I see.

>> I'd like to upgrade udev, then install openrc etc ... before I can drive
>> there and reboot the box.
> 
> 
> You intend to drive there anyway and reboot it. Rebuilding udev & openrc
> will probably take 15 minutes.
> 
> It's such a little time, why are you trying to save 15 minutes in
> advance by taking an unknown and risky path? Just do everything on-site,
> it's safest

~ 90 min drive one way ;-)

Thanks anyway, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

I could install openrc with USE="-netifrc" now ... then it doesn't pull
in netifrc which depends on udev etc etc

Not a real solution as now I miss net.lo  ... oh my.

I scp'ed it over ;) just to make that one reboot work ...

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 20/04/2015 15:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> On 20.04.2015 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
>>> Problems?
>>
>> Yes, it won't work. And the ebuild will error out.
> 
> Ah, I see.
> 
>>> I'd like to upgrade udev, then install openrc etc ... before I can drive
>>> there and reboot the box.
>>
>>
>> You intend to drive there anyway and reboot it. Rebuilding udev & openrc
>> will probably take 15 minutes.
>>
>> It's such a little time, why are you trying to save 15 minutes in
>> advance by taking an unknown and risky path? Just do everything on-site,
>> it's safest
> 
> ~ 90 min drive one way ;-)



I've had a few of those myself :-)

I always figured if I was in for a 4 hour minimum trip anyway, I really
owe it to the customer to spend an extra 30 minutes to be 100% sure
everything was done correctly.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2015-04-20 um 15:28 schrieb Alan McKinnon:

>> ~ 90 min drive one way ;-)

> 
> I've had a few of those myself :-)
> 
> I always figured if I was in for a 4 hour minimum trip anyway, I really
> owe it to the customer to spend an extra 30 minutes to be 100% sure
> everything was done correctly.

The "customer" in case tells me that he has no money and that I
shouldn't invest too much "time"

The initial trigger for all the current "investigation" is a dropped hdd
from the raid arrays ....

The guy opted out of being a real customer in late 2010 or so .. and now
mdadm emails me.

Don't ask how the backup reports look.

S

Re: [gentoo-user] another old server: what about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS ?

[Mike Gilbert]

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20/04/2015 14:51, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>
>> Another > 5 yr server that needs some care.
>>
>> sys-fs/udev-151-r4 and a kernel without CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set.
>>
>> The old udev blocks openrc etc etc ...
>>
>> Aside from: "install from scratch" ->
>>
>> what happens if I upgrade udev before booting a kernel with
>> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS set?
>>
>> Problems?
>
> Yes, it won't work. And the ebuild will error out.

Um... what? The ebuild will display a warning, but it does not die.