[gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Gevisz]

Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
I get the following message message:

"runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"

What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
my Gentoo system anew?
 

Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Alan McKinnon]

On 12/04/2015 12:48, Gevisz wrote:
> Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
> I get the following message message:
> 
> "runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"
> 
> What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
> my Gentoo system anew?
>  
> 


Do nothing.

runscript is the shebang for init scripts for various services,
runscript and openrc-run are both provided by openrc.

Any change to be made is done by the ebuild.

p.s. when asking for help please provide relevant information, such as
do you run a satble or unstable system, what versions of related
software are installed and most important - what effect if any does the
problem have? I can't tell if your system boots normally or if it blows
up and eats your kittens.




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Gevisz]

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:04:40 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/04/2015 12:48, Gevisz wrote:
> > Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
> > I get the following message message:
> > 
> > "runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"
> > 
> > What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
> > my Gentoo system anew?
> >  
> 
> Do nothing.

Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?

> runscript is the shebang for init scripts for various services,
> runscript and openrc-run are both provided by openrc.

Sorry, but I do not understand the word "shebang" in this context.

> Any change to be made is done by the ebuild.

Well, it is a good news for me. :)

> p.s. when asking for help please provide relevant information, such as
> do you run a satble or unstable system,

I mostly run stable system and have only two unstable packages, namely,
vimb and google-chrome. Hopefully, they do not influence booting in any way. :)

> what versions of related software are installed

sys-apps/openrc-0.13.11

> and most important - what effect if any does the problem have?

So far, no noticeable effects accept for the warning message above.

> I can't tell if your system boots normally or if it blows
> up and eats your kittens.

Shall I wait for that to happen before starting to worry? :) 
 

Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Mick]

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On Sunday 12 Apr 2015 12:27:33 Gevisz wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:04:40 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On 12/04/2015 12:48, Gevisz wrote:
> > > Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
> > > I get the following message message:
> > > 
> > > "runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"
> > > 
> > > What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
> > > my Gentoo system anew?
> > 
> > Do nothing.
> 
> Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?
> 
> > runscript is the shebang for init scripts for various services,
> > runscript and openrc-run are both provided by openrc.
> 
> Sorry, but I do not understand the word "shebang" in this context.

Some (older) service startup script is starting with a:

#!/sbin/runscript

shebang, instead of the openrc equivalent:

#!/sbin/openrc-run


If you look in your /etc/init.d/ scripts you will see that there quite a few 
that still start with the runscript shebang.

Eventually ebuilds will update their startup scripts to use the openrc syntax, 
unless systemd takes over the world and openrc is abandoned.


> > and most important - what effect if any does the problem have?
> 
> So far, no noticeable effects accept for the warning message above.
> 
> > I can't tell if your system boots normally or if it blows
> > up and eats your kittens.
> 
> Shall I wait for that to happen before starting to worry? :)

No, because after it eats your kittens it will drink your beer.  We can't have 
that!

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Gevisz]

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:52:37 +0100 Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday 12 Apr 2015 12:27:33 Gevisz wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:04:40 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > > On 12/04/2015 12:48, Gevisz wrote:
> > > > Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
> > > > I get the following message message:
> > > > 
> > > > "runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"
> > > > 
> > > > What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
> > > > my Gentoo system anew?
> > > 
> > > Do nothing.
> > 
> > Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?
> > 
> > > runscript is the shebang for init scripts for various services,
> > > runscript and openrc-run are both provided by openrc.
> > 
> > Sorry, but I do not understand the word "shebang" in this context.
> 
> Some (older) service startup script is starting with a:
> 
> #!/sbin/runscript
> 
> shebang, instead of the openrc equivalent:
> 
> #!/sbin/openrc-run
> 
> If you look in your /etc/init.d/ scripts you will see that there quite a few 
> that still start with the runscript shebang.

Yes, you are right. Thank you for explanation.

> Eventually ebuilds will update their startup scripts to use the openrc syntax, 
> unless systemd takes over the world and openrc is abandoned.
> 
> 
> > > and most important - what effect if any does the problem have?
> > 
> > So far, no noticeable effects accept for the warning message above.
> > 
> > > I can't tell if your system boots normally or if it blows
> > > up and eats your kittens.
> > 
> > Shall I wait for that to happen before starting to worry? :)
> 
> No, because after it eats your kittens it will drink your beer.

It is impossible!

Because I do not drink beer at all. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 14:27:33 +0300, Gevisz wrote:

> > Do nothing.  
> 
> Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?

Because the message say deprecated, which means it will continue to work
for now but support will be dropped at some time in the future. If the
init script in question is one of your own, you need to fix it, otherwise
wait for the maintainer to fix it.

When the message changes from deprecated to obsolete, then it is time to
worry.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?

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Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Gevisz]

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:13:24 +0100 Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 14:27:33 +0300, Gevisz wrote:
> 
> > > Do nothing.  
> > 
> > Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?
> 
> Because the message say deprecated, which means it will continue to work
> for now but support will be dropped at some time in the future. If the
> init script in question is one of your own, you need to fix it, otherwise
> wait for the maintainer to fix it.
> 
> When the message changes from deprecated to obsolete, then it is time to
> worry.

Ok. Thank you for explanation.

[gentoo-user] Re: runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[James]

Gevisz <gevisz <at> gmail.com> writes:



> Sorry, but I do not understand the word "shebang" in this context.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)



hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Alan McKinnon]

On 12/04/2015 13:27, Gevisz wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:04:40 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/04/2015 12:48, Gevisz wrote:
>>> Quite for a long time, while booting my Gentoo system,
>>> I get the following message message:
>>>
>>> "runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead"
>>>
>>> What shall I do to fix this issue accept for reinstallig
>>> my Gentoo system anew?
>>>  
>>
>> Do nothing.
> 
> Thank you for your answer but why that message appear at all, then?
> 
>> runscript is the shebang for init scripts for various services,
>> runscript and openrc-run are both provided by openrc.
> 
> Sorry, but I do not understand the word "shebang" in this context.

Google it.


> Shall I wait for that to happen before starting to worry? :) 


There is nothing to worry about. runscript still exists, you still have
it and it works exactly the way it always did. It is not obsolete or
deleted, it is deprectaed.

Please Google the software term "deprecate", you need to learn how this
part of ecosystems work. No answer to any question you have asked will
make sense till you have this background information


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Mick]

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I've noticed this during booting:

 * runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead.
 * Starting D-BUS system messagebus ...
 * start-stop-daemon: fopen `/var/run/dbus.pid': No such file or directory
 * Detaching to start `/usr/bin/dbus-daemon' ...
 [ ok ]
 * runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead.


Is this a warning of things to come, or should I change my settings somewhere?

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[hydra]

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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've noticed this during booting:
>
>  * runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead.
>  * Starting D-BUS system messagebus ...
>  * start-stop-daemon: fopen `/var/run/dbus.pid': No such file or directory
>  * Detaching to start `/usr/bin/dbus-daemon' ...
>  [ ok ]
>  * runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead.
>
>
> Is this a warning of things to come, or should I change my settings
> somewhere?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>

The init script must be changed to use openrc-run, your action will be to
update dbus as usual. Or better, open a bug report so that the init script
will be updated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] runscript is deprecated; please use openrc-run instead

[Rich Freeman]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:39 AM, hydra <hydrapolic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The init script must be changed to use openrc-run, your action will be to
> update dbus as usual. Or better, open a bug report so that the init script
> will be updated.
>

A bit more background.  These messages are really targeted more at
package maintainers, but they're made user-visible because not all
packages are well-maintained.  Also, since openrc is no longer used by
all Gentoo users there may be package maintainers that simply don't
ever see the message.

When you see a new message like this I'd suggest doing the following:
1.  Give it a few days, just to let maintainers fix things on their
own without being hassled.
2.  Check to see if it is fixed in a more recent package version.  If
it is, most likely the maintainer just doesn't want to make everybody
rebuild things and they plan for you to get the fix whenever the next
version is deployed.
3.  Check to see if a bug is already open for your package.  If not,
go ahead and create one.  Anytime you check for an existing bug, look
for recently-closed ones too.

Usually these errors are put in place many months before anything is
expected to break, and then before actually breaking anything there is
a discussion on -dev, tracker bugs, and so on.  So, don't panic, but
it never hurts to log a bug if the issue isn't already resolved.

-- 
Rich