From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C66138A1C for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35FBEE0965; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC2C6E094C for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wiaa2 with SMTP id a2so153156758wia.0 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HOY25eD/025WtnW355wDPfq5QylAsi1m+RPDwiqzKdA=; b=SCKbINv57ib1pRiclGC9GOrMQcr44bBMQzLF8Lb5E8amYdyEQT7TaOtqp2i6H7Zc5B FXp3+zPpxo48NjD8k1WwNB7fVnpIzFTwzFQHoL+R6fI6JB7sw9lBa1jxsblp8FMn3ktW WvzvcWvFOcYEJfP7xO5S88Twz7tl2fHpZjz9NP/DZ6G6mbdW4JL1cNQZpaw6BEdhYGmy YuL7XprGHR/VcnYLG2OchNfnN+3ognXZalCc6nATewlcgl6qoLyR87ovp9lccblnxtSI zKiIAZR+GN49ZPyiky5TRySX9yl9kQlgPJIBfbAYxr8JMajb/y4V5NBNZ9mH/Big4uCN Q5OQ== X-Received: by 10.194.223.5 with SMTP id qq5mr9612056wjc.152.1428105448747; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-235-66.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.235.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tb3sm4660387wic.0.2015.04.03.16.57.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <551F28DF.5070800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 01:57:19 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer References: <2074513.Jq2xfKgqVs@wstn> <1478951.WCFfi6fabA@navi> In-Reply-To: <1478951.WCFfi6fabA@navi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3788d625-13fd-44d9-8f40-ee9ee184f231 X-Archives-Hash: 88a86231112f4786420064735aed2371 On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able > to answer is "why?". Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for > it, we can predict how it influences even light with great accuracy but what > are the underlying mechanisms? We may never know. Einstein would say it's > because matter bends space, but what is the underlying mechanism for that? We > just take his word for it because he gave us equations that work better than > anything else we've come up with so far. The scientific community is very well aware that it cannot answer the question "why?", and in fact, true science doesn't even try. Science never proves anything, it only fails to disprove a realistic workable model. For the sake of simplicity and brevity we often says "according to Einstein's theory matter bands space so therefore..." or even simplify that to "matter bands space so therefore...", all the time understanding that it's just a model, and could be totally wrong about the real underlying truth. This is in no way a "problem" with science. It is by design. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com