From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-163305-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6200138CCE for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 22:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38BB7E0A6A; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 22:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EF35E0A4A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 22:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgra20 with SMTP id a20so151620714wgr.3 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:51:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HcLW+yonAlqc3leY1msNHtBVSOmQuuo1XESbbZ0rG9U=; b=zNqpHTN5bI/dbwFh9+XQBxwrDpRGY1ipOVq+N1WzrL9Rrz7FVyxy/8ZYhqT4KwqeWG 8VTgUY8SvsiNYpzhscru+ItQTOMx2D9PxBu9jdD5bhGy29PwfvNuAx9ia9iyU6zm/xAH rvhetnXXpfkiZ09w0rYtdKPMEXsU7L3DSMYcobylfiCMJ7wFjLlqGxnF0vcpVisgZGic jBZz0k0hP1XIUct8tfhWiM6xfUJAsJ3cG8QWmgxATwqCRji2nvDTQ4/vq4s8HRSso1l3 6UmfuLE1+qBIPT7usyLiaKc/hHpzigF0zjIk8t7BbGFkqJ6zFpdrd6rqlZXlPBSk9sm8 ltHA== X-Received: by 10.181.13.82 with SMTP id ew18mr16686100wid.84.1427669490346; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-231-92.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.231.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uo6sm13012932wjc.49.2015.03.29.15.51.28 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <551881EA.7040705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 00:51:22 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib" References: <5517CCCC.90800@seismic.de> <201503291722.00507.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <55183166.6000205@gmail.com> <201503291830.25834.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <55183C0E.2010600@xunil.at> <55184177.7030601@gmail.com> <5518785B.3040704@xunil.at> In-Reply-To: <5518785B.3040704@xunil.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6115fe52-a612-4798-b45a-230b983a9a52 X-Archives-Hash: 8d0bf1c79064346f893f490488c32c7b On 30/03/2015 00:10, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > >>> I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is >>> correct in the end .... >> >> >> >> It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not >> your 32 bit apps that have to be listed, it's all the libs and deps they >> have that need 32 bit versions to be built. >> >> If you have a fast cpu, much disk space and don't care about using some >> extra resources, you can always add USE="abi_xx86_32" to make.conf and >> make it global. Every package that supports building 32 bit versions >> will then be recompiled. > > Is that as it is meant to be or some not-so-ideal-switch that will soon > get some polishing? > > IMO I shouldn't have to list hundreds of packages (I had to add more and > more) in some non-default-list ... even when I decide to run unstable > (~amd64). > > My main system isn't that special at all, gnome, systemd, libreoffice, > thunderbird, some browsers ... > > Stuff like that makes me really wonder if I spend too much of my life > time struggling with doing *updates* > > I like Gentoo, you all know, but things like that scare me off a bit. This is Gentoo, it's all about choice. Sometimes there's a downside, like a very long package.use to define to Portage exactly what your choice really is. Setting the flag globally is covered in today's news item on the matter, so I assume the devs are supporting it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com