From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F69138CC5 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B57E088F; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BD86E086F for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibdy8 with SMTP id dy8so42593678wib.0 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oery1MYt73UZ+qTac4B51dAFzG67EItS82CHcaiI7t0=; b=PKUZT9lZXvSd7FTF9OiI8CxggM10Mq/3b45Vw18LATJ27QEbaejsH2LdgZ9D1owFQi cXk413r41aehqLRxiOtp2QF1eHQAFKS2ZtMkTm2LERGBIx1OuDBInSWdOybHI2V8hWF+ UyPqy35YUsJeAPie4JA3YohhLgXcYAsb1oNOEUyuhSMzQz6h1zUAgqcATr7w79hilSEl soui9iz6Xz0nldjDB17SQ7A86vNGyipjJmKrU4NK62ZFackbWNExUCfqnXRErvrTDlwb Cy3wfHGNb9YBItuUgUKLBj2ewDkK8aSlA/bWprUNfQ53viW6aCNV3MBqF771StmDcCmp X8bA== X-Received: by 10.194.95.133 with SMTP id dk5mr90723192wjb.143.1427104768031; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] ([105.210.25.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lb6sm608603wjb.22.2015.03.23.02.59.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <550FE3FB.4010007@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:59:23 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: blockage References: <87bnjl1zpq.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <87k2y8zz03.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <550F3299.9090500@gmail.com> <8922155.XlnV4PMUkg@wstn> In-Reply-To: <8922155.XlnV4PMUkg@wstn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d6295f51-9650-4783-948a-61af4306b034 X-Archives-Hash: da72d8a80740b0ab6578e6b9b5b8ca0b On 23/03/2015 11:55, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 22 March 2015 23:22:33 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> This is one of the things that is starting to real get on my damn tits >> about portage, for about 2 years now. It's not an easy problem to solve, >> and to be honest, portage is not helping at all. You have two options in >> running it: don't use -v and get very little info, or use -v and get a >> terminal dump of the entire graph tree with lots of stuff and zero real >> information about how to solve it. Look at my thread with Dale just the >> other day, I managed to help him with the correct answer because I had a >> magic brainwave to search for the "<" character. >> >> Seriously, what kind of process would ever use that as a problem solving >> approach? >> >> In your case, the solution is in the ebuild for acpupsd and it's >> specific DEPENDs. Now, I'm generally OK with looking in ebuilds for real >> answers and have gotten used to it, but ffs I should not have to do >> that. Well-written software should provide that information in it's >> output, and it shouldn't be hard to get the software to do it. >> >> Ok, rant over. > > Sounds like you're volunteering, Alan. ;-) I do have some of the required skills, and I have free time right now. Maybe I'll have a deeper look into portage's code with a view to improving this area. No promises thought :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com