From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725671389E2 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4B2CE0938; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.no-carrier.info (kraftzwerg.no-carrier.info [87.98.242.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD4F0E091F for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DCD39A9894 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:43:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at no-carrier.info X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.139 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.139 tagged_above=-9999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, CRM114_CHECK=-0.139, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 2.78 ) X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid- Received: from mail.no-carrier.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (??mail.no-carrier.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2XqOR8n3yCXH for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:43:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.135] (p5490D00B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.144.208.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mail@marc-stuermer.de) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7850C39A9892 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:43:45 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.no-carrier.info; dmarc=none header.from=marc-stuermer.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=marc-stuermer.de; s=tsunami; t=1417099425; bh=lU69drHiB2N5yUxE/6KOj6FxVP+/fzwSDtdpOH6OsjY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=UC7XCPOwiY2JbqmNCEv/PQab2hZQcI5Vabr6mJ3qXgsrAJxRpxpIUm2oNNMhxVafo zVUkPT2c7fnjIyHBiyrAZciLkcMBocKzDQCdE+TTBQ4x3VwclQ4F6GGqa5ymOF/2r9 +yv0ksKDmBb0qkCP2+L8i1a7nDdSuc3NFEilRElY= Message-ID: <547738A9.4000904@marc-stuermer.de> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:43:53 +0100 From: Marc Stuermer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3bd73e4a-7133-4cdf-9b25-0a841ba9d35d X-Archives-Hash: 41d8b9995ca3ae31e81c314804fca89f Am 27.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Tom H: > I wouldn't bet to much on that. One of the most vocal anti-systemd > Debian users tried either Gento or Funtoo and reported that > installation and maintenance were difficult. Binary distros do make > things rather easier, especially if you start to play with USE flags > on a source distro. Of course they did. Installing Debian or let's say Ubuntu or Linux Mint is a nobrainer, a streamlined, fast quick and convenient experience, even on most legacy hardware you're done under one hour. Installing Gentoo forces you to think about stuff and know stuff you don't need to know when e.g. using Ubuntu. The Gentoo way equivalent to such distributions is Sabayon: comes with a fully fledged installer (the same like Fedora btw), precompiled binaries and installing doesn't take long. Gentoo is more likely your thing if you want to master your hardware or have quite much knowledge about it. The rest uses other stuff.