From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD1B1389E2 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBA43E08EB; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3F2EE085E for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (5ED238A1.cm-7-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl [94.210.56.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 80D2E340494 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <547620C2.8050806@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:49:38 +0000 From: hasufell Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ? References: <5470D229.7000806@tampabay.rr.com> <54760E01.2050508@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: b4417457-95ee-4cde-81f3-e772f27f31ab X-Archives-Hash: 70815d47c79e8148ce37a4107cb47f00 I still don't see a good argument why we made our system so inflexible, that obviously needed change needs such high amount of work, PR and proof. Trying to improve gaming in gentoo took me 2 years full of work just to realize it is a dead end and I am doing most of the work alone. The necessity was obvious. Trying to improve a tiny fraction about gentoo workflow (including your attempts) already took more than 4(?) years with never ending excuses. The necessity was more than obvious. Now I could talk about similarly obvious things. Sure, not all issues are obvious and those shouldn't be easy to push through. You can draw your conclusions about this. I drew mine: small changes will not get us out of here. Have fun, if you can.