From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78521389E2 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC3DBE08AE; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.no-carrier.info (kraftzwerg.no-carrier.info [87.98.242.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D77AFE0898 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BE639A989B for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at no-carrier.info X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.008 tagged_above=-9999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, CRM114_CHECK=-0.008, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 0.16 ) X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid- Received: from mail.no-carrier.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (??mail.no-carrier.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hObTHNua8QoY for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (p5DD56287.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.213.98.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mail@marc-stuermer.de) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 813B939A9898 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:23 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.no-carrier.info; dmarc=none header.from=marc-stuermer.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=marc-stuermer.de; s=tsunami; t=1416987923; bh=Ym6GRRnhcxAktrZRUMks2tj90b9dErQ8AEGs26AM7fs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=bM0qMr2Ro8vMZT/y2jdClqIgb/prrIYbo0inbyF4NeUFfo8ZEvTxMuB7sbvwWSEDP klrQnIXuXsRvtOIkm4rYXX6r1BqgQzor1lKrR6y+a4HRqpaOhXG0kdHutKWbzSm+gV /UmWhbHB6CdutOX69yO4/SbUnC/nyo9vQw/g8rmo= Message-ID: <5475851B.4020707@marc-stuermer.de> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:31 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYyBTdMO8cm1lcg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> <547370D2.50009@marc-stuermer.de> <54737886.a3a7700a.6f81.4209@mx.google.com> <54738371.6050708@marc-stuermer.de> <5474c078.a817980a.68d0.0c0a@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5474c078.a817980a.68d0.0c0a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 602f585f-5c1a-439b-b630-5129c298a151 X-Archives-Hash: f96d81044c7700742fa00d1dc134dca3 Am 25.11.2014 um 18:44 schrieb Gevisz: > It usually took me from 10 to 20 minutes to download my daily updates > in Ubuntu. For big packages - about 40 minutes or even more. > >> That's the time saving aspect > > lol :) Not "lol", it is like I told you. Binary distributions are a big, big time saver compared to a rolling update source based meta distribution like Gentoo. Another reason why many stick with Distros like e.g. Debian, SuSE or Ubuntu is: * you got a standardized environment/system. That's also a very big requirement if using it in a corporate environment, if not the most important one. I am not saying that this is not doable with Gentoo, but to achieve it with Gentoo you've got to implement quite some things. For Debian e.g. it comes free out of the box.