From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C101389E2 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA246E08AB; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67B4DE086A for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 10so1916155lbg.22 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:36:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zvjx/BIBkaEXe8rvRKuscYOr4J/T0csRrzD+jhqmu8U=; b=jPDE6a+fN+U3Nxh90gjRdHkPFfLXeLJQzujL4SgMIz/ts5g299K0y6o1iVSd1yY/le 4zSiAJSYfjFx3CPKVbrVu8RQDE9VaCl+tK5NqKLY33a/aqF9m90TopQAoqqMlpSdxMJF zXSguq/UbiLiAkqIyNqXP5+YHm0ND0uXEsbmNagsMouhenPoaexiK+9+GODRZ9Mag+sq fY2iyhH/4t5bxlRgjifL8nnE6Jt70LF3O2xubMkX5y/rd7ulc/7tWWmcdIkkOyMDDkgu gcFIf8IcE4xJ06kW5OOSMdbSgoptW141UZikaEZq2DRdjcpMmCHdwgALDQ+fljRn3u5x ZxBQ== X-Received: by 10.112.167.130 with SMTP id zo2mr32509986lbb.4.1416987408764; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cosmo ([193.200.85.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ug3sm970326lac.33.2014.11.25.23.36.47 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:36:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54758310.c3ea980a.1491.31e1@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:34:47 +0200 From: Gevisz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now In-Reply-To: References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> <547370D2.50009@marc-stuermer.de> <54737886.a3a7700a.6f81.4209@mx.google.com> <20141124210516.53a54a90@digimed.co.uk> <54740bae.c12a980a.75de.01e4@mx.google.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e8747008-c7d2-465a-bf7b-1f44fc0baab3 X-Archives-Hash: 764bc4e63e8709683360178feddea62d On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler wrote: > >> > >> No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible > >> in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really > >> *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window > >> frame button and have argued that it is more ergonomic. > >> > >> There was not any possibility to change the place of the closing > >> window frame button in Unity via configuration options. Quite a > >> lot of Ubuntu users complained about it yet in Ubuntu 10.04, > >> where the new place of that button was a new default though > >> it was possible to change it back via configuration options. > >> In Unity, it was absolutely impossible. > > > > Try Lubuntu, with LXDE. > > Or Xubuntu with XFCE. > > I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching > from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like > overkill. Strange enough but according to the information from the DistroWatch.com Ubuntu lost a lot of users and its status of the most popular Linux distribution after switching from Gnome2 to Unity in its 12.04 LTS release. And its not about a small change in an interface, it is about we-know-better-what-you-need approach that drove quite a lot of companies to bankrupcy. Kodak is a perfect example. Its employee invented the very first digital camera in the world but Kodak refused to continue its development and put it to mass production because its managers decided that their customers need only film cameras.