From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49501389E2 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7BF7E0AFD; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.no-carrier.info (kraftzwerg.no-carrier.info [87.98.242.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 889B2E0AD7 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FA439A9895 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:54:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at no-carrier.info X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.11 tagged_above=-9999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, CRM114_CHECK=-0.11, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 2.20 ) X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid- Received: from mail.no-carrier.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (??mail.no-carrier.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NiT9B1SD1zUr for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:54:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (p5490C4CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.144.196.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mail@marc-stuermer.de) by mail.no-carrier.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3572A39A9890 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:54:23 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: mail.no-carrier.info; dmarc=fail header.from=marc-stuermer.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=marc-stuermer.de; s=tsunami; t=1416851663; bh=f/oWawXCnjouY9O9abESWWurh/Ml40z8pZy0y/E7sEU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=o65REjeuaSy6+MavZ6MoDrXVF65IVozZND7QBbXSqszWdsCK13fNFBTEUSeNoDqBy COCUBEG8yFhi+BuE6ArdHxtvKCD+w+A7jIge02YNKF7z07Fh7jJhGZ/d+nnSKFxHVF Fx3E7ehy2FG1+0iFxYeiM77v5NQSt9OSplMbWKRQ= Message-ID: <547370D2.50009@marc-stuermer.de> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:54:26 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Marc_St=FCrmer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> In-Reply-To: <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0a9cc420-3dbf-4871-9f64-dba450ab0008 X-Archives-Hash: 9d32a9eddf92acd8639092d62944dfed Am 21.11.2014 um 18:36 schrieb Philip Webb: > Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. > Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) > will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. Well, Gentoo is for sure quite a different beast compared to Fedora, Debian or Ubuntu. I don't think so, that many people are going to switch to Gentoo just because of Systemd, because of the differences between Gentoo and e.g. Debian. All other major distros are: binary distributed (timesaver!), have a steady release cycle (contrary to Gentoo's rolling upgrade) and each version has a documented feature set. Especially in server environments many people don't want to compile their stuff on production environment and have a rolling upgrade distribution. And especially in server environments there seems to be the biggest resistance against systemd. So naturally they would look for something that has a steady release cycle and is binary distributed, without systemd. E.g. Slackware or FreeBSD does fit that niche.