From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5D0138A1A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49B4E0B23; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 826F7E0B0B for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id k14so10917784wgh.9 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:02:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/SPh0v+Bxa2CYHsCELzMeOWswBq8aILwXS4VIWDpGo8=; b=ElCGZyqTjl9mv8EYTllaqCPi5qMOBBBvUwaQi7hTxIWYheSj1chML1ch4/QUSGKq55 WCHhvFU3nZtBLdrwGXFd4l8rC4/CDX5ePUf0hL+DB42CWkKfQKEDl2pkGuo6hZdtY1Z7 eqbhuy5m3gcUtZMwS+QTqbIHwHTEpDhBUHWDw4EKoVZBpsbm+KJaCYk8H/mCQ+jwEO88 yOscWthvmuy/Z14qDyZ4YY14IE6tBC2LhPsrrIUr2DehL5eASHupvRs8Xux9HEuK282R Djw3VYXaS2cFdO6U66vmWkMVZDncv3zDYNTebcTxjkkE3iLUiqcJt8Vv1S1pEdbJM7Rn pMbw== X-Received: by 10.180.211.166 with SMTP id nd6mr15979931wic.81.1416783739212; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (p4FC12258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.193.34.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ff2sm9538900wib.4.2014.11.23.15.02.18 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5472677A.8090607@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:02:18 +0100 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ? References: <5470D229.7000806@tampabay.rr.com> <5470DBF5.1060304@gentoo.org> <547111B5.2030909@gentoo.org> <20141123151825.GA2139@vidovic.ultras.lan> <5471FDE1.2040108@googlemail.com> <20141123173348.GB2139@vidovic.ultras.lan> <20141123205411.GE2139@vidovic.ultras.lan> <54724E50.4060402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54724E50.4060402@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3c18a84a-65ef-4ad3-b127-78f9aea371c6 X-Archives-Hash: 938131a2a99311667be01b647e72f657 Am 23.11.2014 um 22:14 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 23/11/2014 22:54, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 02:30:12PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht >>> wrote: >>>> Portage should support a way to expose ALL the conditions for a software >>>> to work and update installed libraries to match the requirements. >>> This sounds nice in principle, but making it work is not trivial. >>> >>> Suppose my package works with gcc-1.2.3.4 with a list of 14 specific >>> patches and no others, and glibc-1.2.3.4 with another list of 14 >>> patches and no others. Now suppose 300 other packages have similar >>> requirements. >> To make it simple, this is almost irrelevant IMHO. > > I'll tell you what I'm seeing. > > I'm seeing a theoretical description of magic software that mathematics > predicts can exist. I don't see running software. > > How about you write running software that does what you describe, then > we can talk more, m'kay? > > > > oh, the magical cantation known as 'write the code or shut up' ...