From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DA8138A1A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ADEBE0AB7; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36184E098A for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l2so224159wgh.27 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:20:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v+2wjuyuur9/L5mzL9/4SUaXkNdgqVE8j1qJ5SQzE4s=; b=fvC/paKrC9cp3GTHucivFtVFYPlBHTDfA3cAuaSc86evjwsfrF4zlMlVFnE8Lkcdxi A/mYQE9yCJsiRSpBxc0EjJZ01vbAsffEbJMLtc1H8YmffJpQy5HHA+ohZESwi9Owwqop 3dk8ulAX/lixHuoy5ebMfx69oTzkkZdS/SKaNoMrUhcUdiE7FVzTfzFwYPnEuW5kkX6f u/vHjPKwvj9x2AyP/3CdvP3fgMDK+46sljuOn6jmxizxDNG4f5WKrd8L7tg4PzBMSGgp D7zRYFZ7u6FJLVlFMZE3TztAIegNmLg5WvzmkpifA9Jk5WgkiykilgOwDvt6EG/OKDty PFRQ== X-Received: by 10.180.74.39 with SMTP id q7mr15744040wiv.30.1416777646027; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-217-13.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.217.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h2sm9217276wix.5.2014.11.23.13.20.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:20:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54724F95.3060109@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:20:21 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <54721CEC.1020902@libertytrek.org> <20141123180055.GC2139@vidovic.ultras.lan> <547228FC.6080703@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <547228FC.6080703@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fb375b5c-441f-4765-9540-73f55c72288d X-Archives-Hash: 337e703124b1982639655635c091c130 On 23/11/2014 20:35, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/23/2014 1:00 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and >>> systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such OpenRC is and will be >>> 100% fully supported. >>> >>> With that in mind, it is also 100% on the *systemd proponents* to make >>> sure that *systemd* is 'fully supported' as an *alternate* init system. >> >> You're wrong. > > Really? OpenRC isn't the default init system for Gentoo? Prove it... > >> At first, Gentoo does with what software maintainers offer. > > Irrelevant. Since OpenRC is the default init system, any package that > doesn't work properly with it would, by definition, be a bug that must > be fixed - if the maintainer wants their package to be marked as > stable/usable by 99.99% of gentoo users. That is not true. In Gentoo, "default package" almost always means "the package portage will chose to install unless you say otherwise". It means nothing more than that. It especially does not mean what you imply wrt bugs and the severity thereof. It does not imply some favoured status for the default package, and that package is most often the default for simple historical reasons dating way back to when it was the only choice. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com