Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

[wireless]

On 11/22/14 13:00, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM,  <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need somebody
>> to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to
>> prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open
>> up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs
>> is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody
>> else is allowed to close them. *CONVENIENT* if you hate java and are
>> in control.

> Please don't take this as some kind of rejection.  I'd love to see
> Gentoo have great Java support.  However, I doubt it matters as much
> to me as it does to you, so you're the one with the incentive to make
> it happen.  That's how just about everything that exists in Gentoo got
> the way it is - somebody cared and made it happen.
>
> --
> Rich
>

Exactly. So we agree; that is the reason the original post on the idea
to move everything external to gentoo core, is a very bad one. Java 
exists and prospers on Gentoo, mostly in overlays. Formalizing that
(original) proposal will only serve to further enshrine the fact that 
java on gentoo, get's little love and no java-centric developer will
every get close to the "core" or gentoo.


I'm using java as an example; the science herd and the clustering herd
(projects if you like) are in the same boat. I do appreciate your candid
and clear responses.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 22.11.2014 um 20:59 schrieb wireless@tampabay.rr.com:
> On 11/22/14 13:00, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM,  <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need
>>> somebody
>>> to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to
>>> prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open
>>> up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs
>>> is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody
>>> else is allowed to close them. *CONVENIENT* if you hate java and are
>>> in control.
>
>> Please don't take this as some kind of rejection.  I'd love to see
>> Gentoo have great Java support.  However, I doubt it matters as much
>> to me as it does to you, so you're the one with the incentive to make
>> it happen.  That's how just about everything that exists in Gentoo got
>> the way it is - somebody cared and made it happen.
>>
>> -- 
>> Rich
>>
>
> Exactly. So we agree; that is the reason the original post on the idea
> to move everything external to gentoo core, is a very bad one. Java
> exists and prospers on Gentoo, mostly in overlays. Formalizing that
> (original) proposal will only serve to further enshrine the fact that
> java on gentoo, get's little love and no java-centric developer will
> every get close to the "core" or gentoo.
>
>
> I'm using java as an example; the science herd and the clustering herd
> (projects if you like) are in the same boat. I do appreciate your candid
> and clear responses.
>
>
> James
>
> .
>

please stop this nonesense.

And I don't mean what you are talking about. Learn to thread. Seriously.
Your emails popping up everywhere, instead of one, nice thread. If you
are using a broken mail client, get another one. If it is your own
fault: stop it.

I don't give a shit about java or whatever you are talking about. But I
am so fed up with seeing your emails everywhere. Threading. Keeps people
sane.

[gentoo-user] Message threading (Was: Gentoo's future directtion ?

[David W Noon]

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:29:34 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
(volkerarmin@googlemail.com) wrote about "Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's
future directtion ?" (in <5470F22E.4010801@googlemail.com>):

> And I don't mean what you are talking about. Learn to thread.
> Seriously. Your emails popping up everywhere, instead of one, nice
> thread. If you are using a broken mail client, get another one. If
> it is your own fault: stop it.

James mentioned up-thread that he was using NNTP.  This problem could
well be caused by messages going through the rogue NNTP server
bofh.it.  This was affecting my message threading a couple of years
ago, when I was posting replies from eternel-september.org, which is
downstream from bofh.it.
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Regards,

Dave  [RLU #314465]
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