From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BFA138A1A for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DD6AE0994; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F9F0E090E for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id y10so9524230wgg.41 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:29:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y+CuhiWkTmigrns91SVnXtYVFqFBVN//BnFNIBjRG0I=; b=broP/q1f0xfQIBtSfGGuS24Mm3v/pC7mpgYYKgx4ZPRXx3sRYdkhorQpz1TFls+FP6 1aQG0xgH4pXtcxiOQYAEn5lHHw5yoTgt4i5ovLfnGq4a8vCqCyA+KBamteMjt4g1e9Vf WOf8B7OvERtWLJKFwgP1Cs7Rs7eeFijDTrbdjbe6Lpc0EriWucJORkhXUKG53DLj70Wx fqsylqaxRfNHDcduZMVVmu0nVfHoubkH8BxrqtdfppxqIZjCtBKjC66UgJ9ou51rEH6e ugIoFvFbkAco3iLd8xHXKP8aMJPoSmcwa4JH3wgE2xPmgpo62m1acTJF57qLo/08UP9F 7N+A== X-Received: by 10.180.101.200 with SMTP id fi8mr8082800wib.77.1416688176019; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (p4FC12789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.193.39.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pf4sm13502171wjb.36.2014.11.22.12.29.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Nov 2014 12:29:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5470F22E.4010801@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:29:34 +0100 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ? References: <5470EB21.5090601@tampabay.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <5470EB21.5090601@tampabay.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9a7977a0-8981-4f8b-b17a-18c490e2021b X-Archives-Hash: 49db74c03107c486db61bfbbb6d2d6b2 Am 22.11.2014 um 20:59 schrieb wireless@tampabay.rr.com: > On 11/22/14 13:00, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, wrote: >>> >>> The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need >>> somebody >>> to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to >>> prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open >>> up java for other folks to work on. Close the 100 oldest bugs >>> is a no brainer and a good start, yet nobody will do that, and nobody >>> else is allowed to close them. *CONVENIENT* if you hate java and are >>> in control. > >> Please don't take this as some kind of rejection. I'd love to see >> Gentoo have great Java support. However, I doubt it matters as much >> to me as it does to you, so you're the one with the incentive to make >> it happen. That's how just about everything that exists in Gentoo got >> the way it is - somebody cared and made it happen. >> >> -- >> Rich >> > > Exactly. So we agree; that is the reason the original post on the idea > to move everything external to gentoo core, is a very bad one. Java > exists and prospers on Gentoo, mostly in overlays. Formalizing that > (original) proposal will only serve to further enshrine the fact that > java on gentoo, get's little love and no java-centric developer will > every get close to the "core" or gentoo. > > > I'm using java as an example; the science herd and the clustering herd > (projects if you like) are in the same boat. I do appreciate your candid > and clear responses. > > > James > > . > please stop this nonesense. And I don't mean what you are talking about. Learn to thread. Seriously. Your emails popping up everywhere, instead of one, nice thread. If you are using a broken mail client, get another one. If it is your own fault: stop it. I don't give a shit about java or whatever you are talking about. But I am so fed up with seeing your emails everywhere. Threading. Keeps people sane.