Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

[Paige Thompson <erratic@yourstruly.sx>]

On 11/21/14 07:31, Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 21.11.2014 um 08:17 schrieb Paige Thompson:
>
>> I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux
>> is not linux anymore:
>> http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/
>>
>> I kinda have to agree which is partially why I'm not using it. Will
>> Gentoo have any plans of forcing its users to move to systemd or will I
>> always (such as its always roughly been) have the option of using init
>> and openrc as it is now? I personally have no reasons currently to
>
> You've been on this list for surely long enough to know, that systemd
> will always be optional for Gentoo users with Openrc not going away
> too soon as the default.
>
Being on the list hasn't done me any favors in terms of knowing
architectural plans are to be made. I personally want to believe systemd
will always be optional but I wouldn't rely on that since it's not my
call but I understand that it would have to be fairly mutual amongst
other maintainers. I was hoping this e-mail would find some of those
people.

I remember a time when devfs support was dropped from Gentoo in favor of
udev. I don't remember why but it seems udev is on everything now..
sound familiar? It wasn't that big of a switch for me.. I think there
might have been maybe one or two packages that it affected that I cared
about. On the other hand, today I am a bit more saavy than back then and
I don't really feel like systemd offers anything that I want and it
seems to be followed by a lot of security problems that I don't need.

I don't want to perpetuate ignorance, so correct me if I'm wrong. It
seems like for me specifically to switch to systemd would mean to take
on a lot more complexity than I need if I'm already happy with what I've
got? Asides from where systemd is useful outside of cgroups for
virtualization I fail to understand how process accounting is useful in
any other context except for "multi-user" environments--public shell
servers? I guess I'll have to do some more reading to understand.

It's just nice to know what I have to look forward to in advance. I have
a friend who seems certain that systemd is inevitable despite being
satisfied with openrc. Not trying to troll or force ignorant/zealous
issues.

Thanks

-Paige