From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F0E1389A8 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 382BFE0A85; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4C80E0A65 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id a1so2711531wgh.18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dU8y8YPpImUyMiJozO9A+OkbJEONwZY9I5LHh2u9VCU=; b=ScJ8blZRYzQWNtoZ6SzZzLU1stK1Ot9rV9fzbyqGMH5L767LFgrQ70wPHDCoOnzlbY RrpbGgMBpQ+9adLPWmDtVX4FnGbIU/slOhAA8R/NQtJNWfOdVKAQILKzNXhm9ji5urP0 VMHcPQK7lEpLki46VLZ03KXIF884Wv/RP4QsVVFG7on7XGso/0X0JsFb9EEqz8pSsEeB Mocs7r6VaMq+94iXQXFU+lb3swSU2WP1IGyfMgmnBYtnTX28aRMd41eYk3zv/sHhvA0x gdtF/HnpFvaCqQ//tXQzI0EIIVrHp5XwDwibJL5D5QjMvAdvj/nBlsuda9ztionZGwU2 6fyg== X-Received: by 10.180.82.170 with SMTP id j10mr7339113wiy.35.1414436811620; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-230-245.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.230.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ua8sm16571219wjc.7.2014.10.27.12.06.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544E97C2.2060008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:06:42 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving the portage tree to /var References: <4473472.7D6UrCk1jI@wstn> <201410072248.36414.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201410072303.55841.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <544BAC39.3050505@libertytrek.org> <544BD391.7070102@gentoo.org> <544E6895.6010207@libertytrek.org> In-Reply-To: <544E6895.6010207@libertytrek.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 927ab917-99f4-4621-b908-e65a761cbb3a X-Archives-Hash: 4aa5c9975f39a67175155f74ef19fc4b On 27/10/2014 17:45, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 10/25/2014 12:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 10/25/2014 09:57 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> On 10/7/2014 6:03 PM, Mick wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 22:56:28 Mike Gilbert wrote: >>>>> Quite the opposite. Ideally, you should remove the PORTDIR setting >>>>> from make.conf. repos.conf is the newer, more flexible way to >>>>> configure it. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, that will break some of the third-party portage tools >>>>> which parse make.conf directly. >>> >>>> ... so are we supposed to guess this, wait for a news article >>>> somewhere, or will it show up in an emerge log somewhere? >>> >>> So... would appreciate a response from someone who knows. >>> >>> I really dislike making systemic changes like this without really solid >>> guidance on how (and hopefully the why too)... > >> I'm only guessing, but I don't think PORTDIR is going away for a while. > > Ok, but that doesn't answer the main question... > > Mike Gilbert - apparently a gentoo dev - said that ideally we should > remove the PORTDIR setting. > > This begs three questions... > > 1. Is this correct? > > 2. If so, is there a definitive guide/news item/post somewhere that > explains the details (how and why mainly)? > > 3. If not, why did Mike say this? Occam's razor: What Mike said probably translates best to something like this: Guys, I think it would be a good idea to get rid of PORTDIR now or soon seeing as we're close to being able to do it. What do you all think? The complete lack of any announcement or plan and that PORTDIR still works as always indicates this is probably what he meant by "should" - just a dev talking about an idea -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com