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[217.82.219.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bg10sm13594379wjc.47.2014.10.26.16.25.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544D82FE.1070904@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:25:50 +0100 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels References: <544D4FB6.3030701@googlemail.com> <544D51E6.6030302@alectenharmsel.com> <544D6344.8010101@alectenharmsel.com> In-Reply-To: <544D6344.8010101@alectenharmsel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 9f13210f-10cb-4dd4-be73-76a92c5adb2b X-Archives-Hash: c53ccece1d306d74e0a23ae2df907324 Am 26.10.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Alec Ten Harmsel: > On 10/26/2014 04:16 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel >> wrote: >>> On 10/26/2014 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: >>>>> I've been using gentoo-sources for a while now. >>>>> >>>>> I remember reading on this list about some users using alternative >>>>> kernels on their gentoo systems. My understanding is that amongst some >>>>> of the other alternatives, besides the genkernel, which I'm not >>>>> interested in using, are vanilla-sources available in the portage >>>>> tree, and the sources available on kernel.org. >>>>> I'd appreciate being given some pointers on how the folk here maintain >>>>> their alternative kernels. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> I let portage update the vanilla-sources and once in a while a build and >>>> install a new kernel. At the moment I am on 3.12.23. Maybe I install >>>> 3.12.30 tonight. If I find a good reason to do so. I went to 3.16.6 instead. >>>> >>> What happens when you run `emerge --depclean`? >>> >>> I always un-keyword the exact version of vanilla-sources that I'm >>> running since I update and depclean on a weekly basis. I'm not a huge >>> fan of having a bunch of kernels under /usr/src/linux-* but only having >>> a couple of them compiled, but to each his own I guess. >> I have sys-kernel/vanilla-sources in package.keywords, unversioned. So >> depclean cleans away the older versions, and I keep the latest one. > I was mostly asking Volker since he has vanilla-sources unmasked without > specifying a version but is currently running the 3.12.23 kernel. Little > crazy imnho, but whatever. since I don't update that often specifying a certain version is... not really necessary. And updating a kernel means a reboot. Since rebooting has a high chance of something going wrong (too many times I saw a hdd or ssd that worked fine moments ago die on reboot), and disrupts whatever I am doing (all those nice konsole tabs) and costs times (s3 to desktop is just so much faster). I spend a lot of time with a certain kernel. For depclean - I can't even remember the last time I run it. > Must be nice; my laptop is so old that it boots slowly regardless of my > choice of init system. > > as others have written already: ssd. With a caveat: if an ssd dies, it will die suddenly. Without a warning. Usually 5 minutes before the start of your weekly or monthly backup run. And that is first hand experience.