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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:25:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544D82FE.1070904@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <544D6344.8010101@alectenharmsel.com>

Am 26.10.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Alec Ten Harmsel:
> On 10/26/2014 04:16 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel
>> <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/26/2014 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk:
>>>>> I've been using gentoo-sources for a while now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember reading on this list about some users using alternative
>>>>> kernels on their gentoo systems. My understanding is that amongst some
>>>>> of the other alternatives, besides the genkernel, which I'm not
>>>>> interested in using, are vanilla-sources available in the portage
>>>>> tree, and the sources available on kernel.org.
>>>>> I'd appreciate being given some pointers on how the folk here maintain
>>>>> their alternative kernels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>> I let portage update the vanilla-sources and once in a while a build and
>>>> install a new kernel. At the moment I am on 3.12.23. Maybe I install
>>>> 3.12.30 tonight. If I find a good reason to do so.

I went to 3.16.6 instead.

>>>>
>>> What happens when you run `emerge --depclean`?
>>>
>>> I always un-keyword the exact version of vanilla-sources that I'm
>>> running since I update and depclean on a weekly basis. I'm not a huge
>>> fan of having a bunch of kernels under /usr/src/linux-* but only having
>>> a couple of them compiled, but to each his own I guess.
>> I have sys-kernel/vanilla-sources in package.keywords, unversioned. So
>> depclean cleans away the older versions, and I keep the latest one.
> I was mostly asking Volker since he has vanilla-sources unmasked without
> specifying a version but is currently running the 3.12.23 kernel. Little
> crazy imnho, but whatever.

since I don't update that often specifying a certain version is... not
really necessary.

And updating a kernel means a reboot. Since rebooting has a high chance
of something going wrong (too many times I saw a hdd or ssd that worked
fine moments ago die on reboot), and disrupts whatever I am doing (all
those nice konsole tabs) and costs times (s3 to desktop is just so much
faster). I spend a lot of time with a certain kernel.

For depclean - I can't even remember the last time I run it.
> Must be nice; my laptop is so old that it boots slowly regardless of my
> choice of init system.
>
>
as others have written already: ssd.

With a caveat: if an ssd dies, it will die suddenly. Without a warning.
Usually 5 minutes before the start of your weekly or monthly backup run.
And that is first hand experience.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-26 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-26 19:09 [gentoo-user] alternative kernels Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 19:23 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 19:40   ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 20:20   ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-26 20:45     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 20:33   ` Giuseppe Pappalardo
2014-10-26 19:41     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 19:43       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 20:56         ` Giuseppe Pappalardo
2014-10-26 19:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-26 19:52   ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 19:56   ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-10-26 20:16     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 20:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 20:42         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-26 20:48           ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 20:46         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 20:49           ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-10-26 21:01       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-26 21:16         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 23:18           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-26 23:41             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-27  1:12               ` wabenbau
2014-10-27  1:35               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-10-27  1:54                 ` wabenbau
2014-10-29 19:08                   ` Matti Nykyri
2014-10-26 21:34         ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-26 21:10       ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-10-26 21:23         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-26 21:48           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-26 23:25         ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2014-10-30  7:56       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-30 10:31         ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-31  6:30           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-31  6:37             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-31  7:11               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-31  8:22                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-10-31  9:42                   ` Gregory Woodbury
2014-10-31 11:05                 ` Tanstaafl
2014-10-31 14:09                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-31 16:16                     ` Peter Humphrey
2014-10-31 17:24                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-31 17:53                       ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-31 20:26                       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-01 11:19                         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-11-01 15:38                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-01 17:19                             ` Peter Humphrey
2014-11-01 22:28                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-02 13:14                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-02 15:28                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-03  2:09                             ` Tom H
2014-11-03  8:36                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-02 23:05                       ` Tom H
2014-11-03  0:46                         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-11-03  2:26                           ` Tom H
2014-10-31 22:09                 ` Tom H
2014-10-31 22:30                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-01  1:03                     ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-11-01  9:47                       ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-01 15:50                         ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-11-03  1:54                         ` Tom H
2014-11-03  1:40                       ` Tom H
2014-11-03  0:22                     ` Tom H

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