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[105.237.231.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm13241828wjq.1.2014.10.26.13.42.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Oct 2014 13:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <544D5CC1.3010708@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:42:41 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels References: <544D4FB6.3030701@googlemail.com> <544D51E6.6030302@alectenharmsel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 436e9040-5c7e-4d6a-b4f5-d9cbeabf575d X-Archives-Hash: b2903a88f8d06973b2cc32960b5f4e3a On 26/10/2014 22:21, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/26/2014 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: >>>>> I've been using gentoo-sources for a while now. >>>>> >>>>> I remember reading on this list about some users using alternative >>>>> kernels on their gentoo systems. My understanding is that amongst some >>>>> of the other alternatives, besides the genkernel, which I'm not >>>>> interested in using, are vanilla-sources available in the portage >>>>> tree, and the sources available on kernel.org. >>>>> I'd appreciate being given some pointers on how the folk here maintain >>>>> their alternative kernels. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> I let portage update the vanilla-sources and once in a while a build and >>>> install a new kernel. At the moment I am on 3.12.23. Maybe I install >>>> 3.12.30 tonight. If I find a good reason to do so. >>>> >>> What happens when you run `emerge --depclean`? >>> >>> I always un-keyword the exact version of vanilla-sources that I'm >>> running since I update and depclean on a weekly basis. I'm not a huge >>> fan of having a bunch of kernels under /usr/src/linux-* but only having >>> a couple of them compiled, but to each his own I guess. >> >> I have sys-kernel/vanilla-sources in package.keywords, unversioned. So >> depclean cleans away the older versions, and I keep the latest one. >> >> I'm on 3.17.1 right now, but the moment 3.17.2 comes out I will switch >> to it in all my machines: with kerninst is all of it mostly >> automatized. >> >> And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds ;) >> >> Regards. >> -- >> Canek Peláez Valdés >> Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias >> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México >> > > Do you know if vanilla-sources plays well with openrc, as that is what I use? > Thanks. Yes it does. There's no logical reason to think it doesn't. You do have to set some kernel options, but that is true for just about everything in the kernel - you won't have support for hardware X unless you enable hardware X in the kernel config :-) One of the additions with gentoo-sources is the very first menu item, all it does is enable a bunch of stuff that supported init systems (openrc and systemd) use - it's purely a convenience measure and doesn't change the kernel itself per se. systemd for example will need cgroups enabled, openrc needs udev-mount. It's all in the ebuild, and portage throws an error is something required is not set in .config. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com