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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other
From: Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>
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I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are
pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86

One is Amarok.  Another, probably, is Ktorrent.

Anyone has seen it or am I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-)  ?

Best regards to all
Francisco

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Thanks a lot!
>
> It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely
> accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev
> decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -
>
> Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages
> Rememerge the new kde split packages
>
> There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called "Migrating to KDE
> split
> ebuilds" or some such. A quick search will find it for you.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Francisco
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs
> <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>wrote:
> > > Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:
> > > > And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?
> > >
> > > The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the
> > > same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.
> > >
> > > The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual
> > > applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of
> > > kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the "-meta"
> > > ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta
> > > appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications
> than
> > > monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.
> > >
> > > So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic
> ebuilds
> > > and
> > > when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds.
> > >
> > > That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim
> > > installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from
> the
> > > split ebuild again.
> > >
> > > HTH...
> > >
> > >        Dirk
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>


-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one
idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." -
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I&#39;ve found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are p=
ulling 3.5.10 packages while they&#39;re still masked ~x86<br><br>One is Am=
arok.=C2=A0 Another, probably, is Ktorrent.<br><br>Anyone has seen it or am=
 I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-)=C2=A0 ?<br>
<br>Best regards to all<br>Francisco<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S=
at, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:alan.mckinnon@gmail.com">alan.mckinnon@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Saturday 13 Ju=
ne 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:<br>
&gt; Thanks a lot!<br>
<br>
It&#39;s not completely obvious from Dirk&#39;s post (what he said is compl=
etely<br>
accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev<b=
r>
decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -<br>
<br>
Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages<br>
Rememerge the new kde split packages<br>
<br>
There&#39;s a good migration guide at <a href=3D"http://gentoo.org" target=
=3D"_blank">gentoo.org</a>, called &quot;Migrating to KDE split<br>
ebuilds&quot; or some such. A quick search will find it for you.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Francisco<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dirk.heinrichs@online.de">dirk.heinrichs@online.de</a=
>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have=
 the<br>
&gt; &gt; same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.<br=
>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individu=
al<br>
&gt; &gt; applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also pa=
rt of<br>
&gt; &gt; kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the &quot;-=
meta&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with=
 -meta<br>
&gt; &gt; appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applicatio=
ns than<br>
&gt; &gt; monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic =
ebuilds<br>
&gt; &gt; and<br>
&gt; &gt; when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebui=
lds.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; That&#39;s also the reason why they block each other. When you ha=
ve kdepim<br>
&gt; &gt; installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn&#39;t install km=
ail from the<br>
&gt; &gt; split ebuild again.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; HTH...<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dirk<br>
<br>
--<br>
</div>alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>&quot;If you have an ap=
ple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still ea=
ch have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we excha=
nge these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.&quot; - George Bernar=
d Shaw<br>


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