From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-96777-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MG14H-0005w1-Qp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:33:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 088D1E0311; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC96E0311 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so723544ewy.34 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ubxHflDs9arOw2RsruXXJKNBiVVuBQ8FpJ8Oe1CD6+0=; b=sEksqA++vsFjQHJRFQIX7ED7GCTqu50oyy/M3P2RRyC03r981wEWoz+wGDeQ3zVl2Q 5vVlwfzT6Jg6D9u15KTDdkyiefw00cVKFMyDuKljaohW7o0Eb7vtWHPVCK56SCA5QLX3 tfq5kh7OxKvmEQSAC4d0BjFgzh85aM7LdjQnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SXoeo7veu8QCCeFw5vICFfnadjwEHuQlViFG1PgL3QMrD5T38NI3N5ahjiYwLVtbFD 7VFDTQ82RryRiOg/ShkztFTRUm9kU2Yi2RvnaAib+TUI1KTD7HePg7/ho28hclaj3iBw eHxK9b4+fbMnNdhcOwvSTjoPc+ayLRNvKLvaM= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.18.205 with SMTP id l55mr2113702wel.194.1245029577967; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200906131058.33632.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <543f3b9c0906121324s2b7a2c97q45ab3dc603d23290@mail.gmail.com> <200906122258.27712.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <543f3b9c0906121654q26304495odea07b538aede866@mail.gmail.com> <200906131058.33632.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:32:57 -0300 Message-ID: <543f3b9c0906141832y5ae78e1i1fbe7f6d0ec025ec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kde 3.5 packages blocking each other From: Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c2740bac836046c590968 X-Archives-Salt: 8b4f6d08-d690-409b-a2cf-d6646d0701d2 X-Archives-Hash: bb64344db94de20315c9bad03df25004 --0016e64c2740bac836046c590968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are pulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86 One is Amarok. Another, probably, is Ktorrent. Anyone has seen it or am I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-) ? Best regards to all Francisco On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>wrote: > On Saturday 13 June 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote: > > Thanks a lot! > > It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is completely > accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev > decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it - > > Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages > Rememerge the new kde split packages > > There's a good migration guide at gentoo.org, called "Migrating to KDE > split > ebuilds" or some such. A quick search will find it for you. > > > > > > > > Francisco > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs > <dirk.heinrichs@online.de>wrote: > > > Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares: > > > > And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not? > > > > > > The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have the > > > same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org. > > > > > > The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individual > > > applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also part of > > > kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the "-meta" > > > ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with -meta > > > appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applications > than > > > monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds. > > > > > > So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic > ebuilds > > > and > > > when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebuilds. > > > > > > That's also the reason why they block each other. When you have kdepim > > > installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install kmail from > the > > > split ebuild again. > > > > > > HTH... > > > > > > Dirk > > -- > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw --0016e64c2740bac836046c590968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've found out that there are some packages out of kde-basse that are p= ulling 3.5.10 packages while they're still masked ~x86<br><br>One is Am= arok.=C2=A0 Another, probably, is Ktorrent.<br><br>Anyone has seen it or am= I the only one not using KDE 4 ;-)=C2=A0 ?<br> <br>Best regards to all<br>Francisco<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S= at, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Alan McKinnon <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D= "mailto:alan.mckinnon@gmail.com">alan.mckinnon@gmail.com</a>></span> wro= te:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, = 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Saturday 13 Ju= ne 2009 01:54:45 Francisco Ares wrote:<br> > Thanks a lot!<br> <br> It's not completely obvious from Dirk's post (what he said is compl= etely<br> accurate though), but kde-3.5.10 will not receive monolithic ebuilds (dev<b= r> decision). If you want kde-3.5.10, there is only one way to do it -<br> <br> Unmerge your existing kde monolithic packages<br> Rememerge the new kde split packages<br> <br> There's a good migration guide at <a href=3D"http://gentoo.org" target= =3D"_blank">gentoo.org</a>, called "Migrating to KDE split<br> ebuilds" or some such. A quick search will find it for you.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> <br> <br> <br> ><br> > Francisco<br> ><br> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dirk Heinrichs<br> <<a href=3D"mailto:dirk.heinrichs@online.de">dirk.heinrichs@online.de</a= >>wrote:<br> > > Am Freitag 12 Juni 2009 22:45:49 schrieb Francisco Ares:<br> > > > And how do I tell if an ebuild is monolithic or not?<br> > ><br> > > The monolithic ones install larger parts of KDE, and usually have= the<br> > > same names as the original source packages offered at KDE.org.<br= > > ><br> > > The split ebuilds, well, split those packages into their individu= al<br> > > applications, so you have ebuilds for konqueror (which is also pa= rt of<br> > > kdenetwork) or kmail (kdepim). In addition, there are the "-= meta"<br> > > ebuilds, which have the same name as the monolitic ones, but with= -meta<br> > > appended (kdepim-meta). Those usually install the same applicatio= ns than<br> > > monolithic ebuilds, but as split ebuilds.<br> > ><br> > > So, when you install kde, you get a complete KDE from monolithic = ebuilds<br> > > and<br> > > when you install kde-meta, you get a complete KDE from split ebui= lds.<br> > ><br> > > That's also the reason why they block each other. When you ha= ve kdepim<br> > > installed, you already got kmail, so you shouldn't install km= ail from the<br> > > split ebuild again.<br> > ><br> > > HTH...<br> > ><br> > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dirk<br> <br> --<br> </div>alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>"If you have an ap= ple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still ea= ch have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we excha= nge these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." - George Bernar= d Shaw<br> --0016e64c2740bac836046c590968--