From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D7413838B for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05319E08CD; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05B1BE07D7 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by gateway2.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CA220735 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:17:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:message-id:date:from :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=8DtsqDqG3TDo36PIT9WP52 2Y4QQ=; b=MCUutwa+XpzB4HiXi1yQuvEOp8vFYItgYvkfGYrN+CqsmMaiMuWQ93 Yk2NMQPzYeUUH6sE/YpxeuwPPQQ35sIe6vKPE2IleJwVY13usDcVDNZ8ulope4St YLR84XLd/tVRqRrxNJCjKNB8z/HaQ6V1H/lg8QS5WXtB334+Ryaw4= X-Sasl-enc: iyBdduKxLZvX+bfFk/hZuZJuWCyKnurDNeZcR0jLFhVb 1413332256 Received: from [192.168.0.149] (unknown [73.2.142.203]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C4E9468015B for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <543DBD20.6000307@alectenharmsel.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:17:36 -0400 From: Alec Ten Harmsel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Six non-Gentoo installs References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 52f3ce57-efec-4b49-9c1e-4820ee631cdd X-Archives-Hash: 6d0b8f8236e8b0899c98e534e988192f On 10/14/2014 06:36 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > CentOS 7.0, however, was a mess. > It took three attempts and almost an entire day of work. I run it on my home server. It works pretty well for me. > My first attempt was to use the "minimal" ISO image so that I would > have the option of burning a CD if needed (I can't burn DVDs at the > moment). That was a mistake. It was too minimal, and I couldn't get > the network working to the point where I could configure repositories > and install other stuff. Since the CentOS 7 ISO images all boot from > USB flash drive anyway, staying under the 700MB CD size limit was moot > anyway. > > Next I tried the net install ISO. I'm guessing I could have burned > the DVD image to USB drive, but all I want is a minimal desktop > system, so I figured why wait for a download of 3.5GB of stuff I don't > care about. > > It still didn't recognize the NVidia Ethernet controller on my > 5-year-old motherboard. After some cable swapping and futzing around, > I got the netinstall going using the Realtek NIC. > > Maybe I just got unlucky and picked a slow mirror site, but once I got > the install going, it ran for over 3 hours when installing a vanilla > Gnome desktop system. Compare that with a 15 minute download time for > a 700MB Xubuntu CD and then a 15 minute install. > > CentOS 7 refused to install the bootloader in a partition: your only > choices are MBR or nothing. When I manually installed grub legacy it > failed because I had stupidly allowed CentOS to use ext4, and the > build of Grub I had laying around didn't grok ext4. > > So I re-do the whole net install again using ext3 instead. > > Now, after manually installing Grub legacy in the CentOS 7 partition, > it boots up. > The main problem (imnho) is that you think CentOS cares about configurability/multiple ways of doing things. They do not. They have their packages and their way of doing things, following TUV so that the distro is easily supportable. When installing, you just have to keep clicking next like a robot. > I'm more convinced than ever that Gentoo is the way to go for my > "real" systems... > Definitely agree; any systems that I spend a substantial amount of time using run Gentoo. Nothing else is equal. I mostly run it on my home server because I want it to Just Work (tm) without any work on my part. It also prevents me from playing around too much with USE and other things, which is another bonus as I get more work done ;) Alec