From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA8313838B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50A43E0928; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF8BE08E0 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a1so4865339wgh.11 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:25:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fQs8aa5P6Sj46h3f8nqO7ekJzeHHewHfza6zetuAyrY=; b=VBxknqK23F5siJ0HVRBFfD03L6qxdg3lSGiU6R0hYPpeiB124MBBTHOoUeY8HXCp+a a4Gi/YfS06zboMKRMLjyuxVupZo5aV4xmS/skrwtxau5aN1dHuvMMC4nsL7W+Is1SK6G KMM4n4v/ltdfSsOUr2ajo9TWseWLjR9O3/GYG6OzeCYOy9jVq9ZeCMzMTZNk//iFTG8h nWwA0+phglnkkHmIKXJqQpZZhlehHToHLOpv9+XLyQfXr1Kco8wYG57ZuPt+F9m1b8Rc t8T2lRf4DhaC8xWzSgjxbCMj/eDLFIRnCU6I54vuG31hRh8/af7uNRVHsYW/kqqadYJn jIUg== X-Received: by 10.180.83.134 with SMTP id q6mr14079672wiy.12.1412529942492; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (p5B0C47E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [91.12.71.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id di1sm8562278wib.21.2014.10.05.10.25.41 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54317F15.4080305@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 19:25:41 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5? References: <543144E8.9090206@libertytrek.org> <54316546.7070407@libertytrek.org> <54317162.50508@gmail.com> <543178F3.20505@googlemail.com> <54317B9A.5080909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54317B9A.5080909@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9d92a574-853e-41d8-85a2-f243d0b040db X-Archives-Hash: 60880305638028d39f8d8f890f2243c8 Am 05.10.2014 um 19:10 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 05/10/2014 18:59, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn >>>> thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I >>>> could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer >>>> managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I >>>> switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird. >> or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails. >> But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and >> all filters broke - several times. > > Ever notice how no other pim-like application feels the need to store > everything in mysql or similar? The fact that so many pim-like apps > actually do work should count for something > > >>>> I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and >>>> stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also >>>> understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is. >> as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will >> never be trustworthy. >>>> The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My >>>> sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-) >>>> >> My favorite fuckups which are still around: >> tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some >> javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is >> fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just >> vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up. > I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months, I get along > just fine with firefox and chromium. I believe konqueror is essentially > unmaintained these days or at least on life support. Make a fine file > manager though (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas) > > > > konqueror for the usual stuff firefox for video sites (like youtube)&facebook chromium for fucking retard sites that make my blood boil. like *.yahoo.com, tumblr, flickr.