From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E29F13838B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E4C2E0901; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21F1E0830 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 17:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id fb4so2629612wid.10 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MIwSZ+4TVF3Jwdb0ON2svbGQ9pqTmwNyXph7D0r/bYQ=; b=iQWUVLI15ooZ7ceEvp/XITmpQhIin3gYfIlxUe+CN82wtChBtHNvKGZWTvx+PZJN/6 Y8g2hv3qizqql5dwT3Rzhnev3HCpG60QqQe4L8G0tC4Fysnwchh5WP/0F4ITQTE4Rw6L pQR8N0rgN06+uvONQsYiM3H8D3gGEmsA7leD97+JtDkhmH5MD6Cmv9Zh7eJYqwICVP8u Lew3LLgYdm6fvSIghLZzWv7d9mbYSXZegOoES2qQ2Jm6BKEGmW0C/6QFDFT/E+8fmm38 hRxUiZqanfuRAhjeH8pkNouC3HYENoiHYxxF1ymrKTBtDt4H2qldcFGR+v+LDZpnqgNH R8PQ== X-Received: by 10.180.149.130 with SMTP id ua2mr13386665wib.68.1412529055345; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.41] (105-237-231-134.access.mtnbusiness.co.za. [105.237.231.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id am1sm14493284wjc.29.2014.10.05.10.10.54 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54317B9A.5080909@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 19:10:50 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5? References: <543144E8.9090206@libertytrek.org> <54316546.7070407@libertytrek.org> <54317162.50508@gmail.com> <543178F3.20505@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <543178F3.20505@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cfc3ce99-1569-4fb0-949c-445f370cbec8 X-Archives-Hash: b78d7c39555ede9ff7a97e4c0f11ea7a On 05/10/2014 18:59, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn >> > thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I >> > could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer >> > managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I >> > switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird. > or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails. > But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and > all filters broke - several times. Ever notice how no other pim-like application feels the need to store everything in mysql or similar? The fact that so many pim-like apps actually do work should count for something > >> > >> > I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and >> > stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also >> > understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is. > as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will > never be trustworthy. >> > >> > The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My >> > sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-) >> > > My favorite fuckups which are still around: > tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some > javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is > fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just > vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up. I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months, I get along just fine with firefox and chromium. I believe konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though (kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com