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Am 05.10.2014 um 18:27 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On 05/10/2014 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>> On 10/06/2014 02:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>> I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've
>>>> experienced/heard in the past though.
>>> Bloat, buggy/unstable ever since the move from KDE3 to KDE4 (and never
>>> really gotten any better over time), etc...
>>>
>>> But of course there are always haters too... I'm sure it isn't as bad as
>>> the loudest complainers make it sound...
>>>
>>>
>> There were definitely issues in KDE 4 early days but there have been
>> substantial improvements since then. Regarding bloat/performance, this
>> biggest complaints seem to be about nepomuk/baloo. We provide the
>> semantic-desktop USE flag to provide the option of disabling this
>> feature wherever it's possible.
>
> People do complain about nepomuk/baloo, but in my opinion it's mostly
> unwarranted. The first indexing action did always take a long time (and
> so does mlocate) but once that's done, I found it didn't really impact
> the system all that much.
>
> My real beef is with akonadi and kdepim. I could never get the damn
> thing to actually work or to tell me what it was doing in a manner I
> could understand. The last straw was around KDE-4.4 when the importer
> managed to destroy my entire mail store and leave me with nothing, so I
> switched to claws and several years later switched again to Thunderbird.
or even better: akonadi eating 10 years and 100 000+ archived emails.
But the gains were there - search became slower, if it worked at all and
all filters broke - several times.
>
> I keep reading reports that kdepim is nowadays so much better and
> stable, but to be frank I do not trust it, and likely never will. I also
> understand this is not entirely logical, but it's just the way it is.
as long as akonadi with its idiotic database backend is around, it will
never be trustworthy.
>
> The rest of KDE I find to be very usable and rather pleasant to use. My
> sole remaining gripe is lack of stored sessions in dolphin :-)
>
My favorite fuckups which are still around:
tumblr can make konqueror hang at 100% cpu for minutes, because of some
javascript - firefox and chromium are fine and dlisted in one tab is
fine, but open one of their articles in a new tab and konqueror just
vanishes. Not even the crash dialog pops up.